I have a question

[Redhitman]

My question is: Why does LP's newest album, Minutes to Midnight, suck so bad compared to all their other albums?
They claim that they were trying to go for a "new" sound. No, they were trying to go emo on us and completely F'ed up the entire album. If we didn't like the "old" sound we never would have bought the first albums at all. Minutes to Midnight is total crap and anyone who disagrees, I'm sure, listens to AFI or some other idiot bands.
Go back and listen to Meteora and Hybrid Theory and then listen to Minutes to Midnight and honestly tell me that Minutes to Midnight is better than those. You can't!
They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels.
Look at reviews on NME.com, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both received a 7/10, Minutes to Midnight a 2/10.
Get back to what we liked in the first place and stop trying to go with the crowd of all the S***** emo bands. Get Mike back in there with his raps and bring back the kick ass guitar rythms.

[California_Castaway]

Year late on all the hating bro.

If you want to read some of the first impressions.
http://forums.linkinpark.com/showthread.php?t=67

Just look at the Minutes To Midnight sub-forum, there's plenty of threads in there to talk about this in.

[shinodasgirl5177]

uh oh i dont think you know what you just started on this messege board..

[minuteman]

Look at reviews on NME.com, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both received a 7/10, Minutes to Midnight a 2/10.First thing's first - did you listen to the album?
Two - I don't listen to critics.
Three - ... yeah. :cool:

No internetz to you, sir.

[maria_shinoda]

i understand that u're new and u don't know there're thounsands of threads like this,but...why are new threads about this when MTM was release a year ago?i think it's a little bit late...

[MarathonMan]

My question is: Why does LP's newest album, Minutes to Midnight, suck so bad compared to all their other albums?
They claim that they were trying to go for a "new" sound. No, they were trying to go emo on us and completely F'ed up the entire album. If we didn't like the "old" sound we never would have bought the first albums at all. Minutes to Midnight is total crap and anyone who disagrees, I'm sure, listens to AFI or some other idiot bands.
Go back and listen to Meteora and Hybrid Theory and then listen to Minutes to Midnight and honestly tell me that Minutes to Midnight is better than those. You can't!
They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels.
Look at reviews on NME.com, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both received a 7/10, Minutes to Midnight a 2/10.
Get back to what we liked in the first place and stop trying to go with the crowd of all the S***** emo bands. Get Mike back in there with his raps and bring back the kick ass guitar rythms.

Wow...way to start out your LPN account with a post about hating one of LP's albums.

[Flames_Go_Higher]

Wow...way to start out your LPN account with a post about hating one of LP's albums.

You're allowed to be a fan and dislike an album!

[MarathonMan]

You're allowed to be a fan and dislike an album!

I know that, but he could of started off his account with a little bit more positive message.

[ChesterzMuse]

I can see we're prolly going to scare off this one.

[Redhitman]

I know that, but he could of started off his account with a little bit more positive message.
Alright, on a positive note, if that's what you want, I will tell you that LP was the band that actually started my liking of music at all. Before Hybrid Theory came out I very seldom listened to any music whatsoever. I thought it was a flat out waste of time.

With that said, it really upsets me that a band I love goes in this "new" direction when there was nothing wrong with their old sound to begin with. If we didn't like their music then we wouldn't have bought it as much as we did, would we? So, why would you change it up? Looking for a new audience? Well that wouldn't make any sense, given you have millions of fans already.

I understand that they wanted to try new things and so on, but what they tried just didn't work and I think they should go back to what started them off in the first place.

P.S., Minuteman, Yes I did listen to the album, how else would I know that I don't like it? In fact, the reason this post comes so late is because it was the second time I had listened to it, the first being when it was first released, and after that second time I just felt I had to express my feelings of it somehow. Thus, here we are.

[ZARAcutie]

That ^^^^^^ was a personal opinion.

There are basically a million threads like these. So many that Mike doesn't even care anymore.
If you're going to hate that MTM album blame it on Rick instead.

Feels bad when people criticize LP :p
Even though MTM was not as good as the other albums I think it has a lot of meaning to it, and shows a more mature side of LP. Hopefully the next album will be more like HT or Meteora.

[MarathonMan]

Alright, on a positive note, if that's what you want, I will tell you that LP was the band that actually started my liking of music at all. Before Hybrid Theory came out I very seldom listened to any music whatsoever. I thought it was a flat out waste of time.

With that said, it really upsets me that a band I love goes in this "new" direction when there was nothing wrong with their old sound to begin with. If we didn't like their music then we wouldn't have bought it as much as we did, would we? So, why would you change it up? Looking for a new audience? Well that wouldn't make any sense, given you have millions of fans already.

I understand that they wanted to try new things and so on, but what they tried just didn't work and I think they should go back to what started them off in the first place.

P.S., Minuteman, Yes I did listen to the album, how else would I know that I don't like it? In fact, the reason this post comes so late is because it was the second time I had listened to it, the first being when it was first released, and after that second time I just felt I had to express my feelings of it somehow. Thus, here we are.

1. Thank You

2. It wasn't their fault. Rick thought people would get tired of the old style and made them do MTM with a different. If there's anyone you want to blame, it's Rick.

[Rade]

2. It wasn't their fault. Rick thought people would get tired of the old style and made them do MTM with a different. If there's anyone you want to blame, it's Rick.

uhm... no...?

[MarathonMan]

uhm... no...?

Or...I don't know. Just blame him :)

[Redhitman]

Or...I don't know. Just blame him :)
OK, well Rick or whoever the hell thought this would be a good idea should go back and listen to the albums of just about any 1980's/early 90's band who are still putting out albums. They all sound the same! Yet people still buy them.

And maybe Rick should read this (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sellout) definition of a sellout on Urban Dictionary before he screws LP over any more. Emphasis on the first entry of that definition because it's exactly what happened with MTM.

[California_Castaway]

OK, well Rick or whoever the hell thought this would be a good idea should go back and listen to the albums of just about any 1980's/early 90's band who are still putting out albums. They all sound the same! Yet people still buy them.

And maybe Rick should read this (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sellout) definition of a sellout on Urban Dictionary before he screws LP over any more. Emphasis on the first entry of that definition because it's exactly what happened with MTM.
LP wanted change, Rubin just helped them.
It wasn't all Rubin.

[Tweener]

I don't get why just because the album was released a year ago that people don't have the right to complain about it.

[Titan50]

My question is: Why does LP's newest album, Minutes to Midnight, suck so bad compared to all their other albums?
They claim that they were trying to go for a "new" sound. No, they were trying to go emo on us and completely F'ed up the entire album. If we didn't like the "old" sound we never would have bought the first albums at all. Minutes to Midnight is total crap and anyone who disagrees, I'm sure, listens to AFI or some other idiot bands.
Go back and listen to Meteora and Hybrid Theory and then listen to Minutes to Midnight and honestly tell me that Minutes to Midnight is better than those. You can't!
They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels.
Look at reviews on NME.com, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both received a 7/10, Minutes to Midnight a 2/10.
Get back to what we liked in the first place and stop trying to go with the crowd of all the S***** emo bands. Get Mike back in there with his raps and bring back the kick ass guitar rythms.

Dude, NME sucks balls. They hate any band that's not indie

[NoFace]

2. It wasn't their fault. Rick thought people would get tired of the old style and made them do MTM with a different. If there's anyone you want to blame, it's Rick.

That's the poorest excuse for Linkin Park's failure at pleasing some of their fans. If there's anyone you want to blame, blame those Linkin Park little peanuts.

[3Blin1k1]

And maybe Rick should read this (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sellout) definition of a sellout on Urban Dictionary before he screws LP over any more. Emphasis on the first entry of that definition because it's exactly what happened with MTM.

Oh Jesus, the sellout card. Holy shit, as soon as a band gets big or wants to experiment, they're sellouts. I don't see why an artist has to do everything for their fans. Sure, it's nice to appreciate your fans, but there's one problem with this sellout business: IT'S THEIR MUSIC, NOT YOURS. Get the hell over it already. Do you understand that these bands have families to feed and playing to crowds of 200 just doesn't cut it? Stop being so goddam selfish...thinking that the artist is there for you. True, they are and should be there for the fans, but their world doesn't revolve around you. Stuff it.

And secondly, their old music wasn't THAT great to begin with. Tell me, besides sounding cool and being catchy, how was it so impressive that it blew everything else out of the water? You claim that anybody that listens to MTM doesn't know good music. Well, I got something to share with you. The majority of people who know a thing or two about music will tell you that Linkin Park, especially their older stuff, SUCKS (their opinion, not mine). You can't go up to an old rocker or a rock music enthusiast and say, "Linkin Park's the best." Their response may be too much for you to handle.

[Titan50]

Oh Jesus, the sellout card. Holy shit, as soon as a band gets big or wants to experiment, they're sellouts. I don't see why an artist has to do everything for their fans. Sure, it's nice to appreciate your fans, but there's one problem with this sellout business: IT'S THEIR MUSIC, NOT YOURS. Get the hell over it already. Do you understand that these bands have families to feed and playing to crowds of 200 just doesn't cut it? Stop being so goddam selfish...thinking that the artist is there for you. True, they are and should be there for the fans, but their world doesn't revolve around you. Stuff it.

And secondly, their old music wasn't THAT great to begin with. Tell me, besides sounding cool and being catchy, how was it so impressive that it blew everything else out of the water? You claim that anybody that listens to MTM doesn't know good music. Well, I got something to share with you. The majority of people who know a thing or two about music will tell you that Linkin Park, especially their older stuff, SUCKS (their opinion, not mine). You can't go up to an old rocker or a rock music enthusiast and say, "Linkin Park's the best." Their response may be too much for you to handle.

True, Linkin Park are my favourite band, but I don't go around going "LP IS TEH BEST BAND EVARS" because they're not. All they did was bring nu metal to a wider audience.

[minuteman]

Oh Jesus, the sellout card. Holy shit, as soon as a band gets big or wants to experiment, they're sellouts.Yeah, I know; similarly, once a band does anything, they're "emo". :mad: True, Linkin Park are my favourite band, but I don't go around going "LP IS TEH BEST BAND EVARS" because they're not. All they did was bring nu metal to a wider audience.Same here -- I know to differentiate between what's the best and what I like best. :)

But, anyway, Linkin Park wanted a new sound, they got sick of the old one, they needed something new. The fans need to grow up, that's what I'm thinking.

"Minutes To Midnight" was exactly the result they wanted from this change, and I think it's excellent. They're not out to please you, they're out to satisfy their need to experiment, break boundaries and tread new ground. They knew from the start they'd be losing fans, they knew there were people who wouldn't appreciate the band doing what they wanted to do this time.

They took the chance and I think it's for the better, regardless of who may hate the album.

[3Blin1k1]

Personally, I lost a lot of respect for LP when they put out Meteora. MTM is the reason I like them again. Is it the greatest album ever? No way in hell. But it is a solid album and at least they've proven that they aren't talentless hacks. To me, if they had stuck with their old sound for a 3rd album...that's what I'd consider a sellout.

I feel like they've broken the barrier and become a pretty decent rock band. TLTGYA, What I've Done, No More Sorrow, Given Up, LOATR...those are all top-notch songs. I feel like more of a fan now than when I was 12 and listening to HT.

They have changed for the better, and maybe all of you stuck in the days of the "mighty Hybrid Theory" should grow up as well.

[Titan50]

The funny thing is how can they sell out when they were already REALLY popular in the first place, HM?!

[3Blin1k1]

I could really give a shit if a band's big or small, mainstream or underground...just as long as the music's good.

Seriously, it's not that big of a deal if a band signs with a big record company. I've heard it all before. Green Day sold out. RHCP sold out. Aerosmith sold out. Smashing Pumpkins sold out. Avenged Sevenfold sold out. Linkin Park sold out. Metallica sold out. Why? Because they have a career that makes good money? Oh, in that case, Donald Trump sold out. That hugely successful Real Estate agent sold out. Anybody who makes any kind of money for what they do for a living has sold out. End of story.

[California_Castaway]

Oh Jesus, the sellout card. Holy shit, as soon as a band gets big or wants to experiment, they're sellouts.
If a band gets big, they should go big with it.
Not just play it safe and stay mainstream friendly.
I get your point.
And LP is no way a real sellout, they changed with their success, not in the completely correct direction, but still change. And they took it as a risk.
But most "sellouts" just make that shallow album that will appeal to mainstream audiences and only keep them up in the charts. Vice-versa, the other bands will kick things up a notch and steady their way in mainstream or kinda get drowned in it. But sadly, we don't see as many of those risks at all these days.

[Moridin]

OK, well Rick or whoever the hell thought this would be a good idea should go back and listen to the albums of just about any 1980's/early 90's band who are still putting out albums. They all sound the same! Yet people still buy them.

And maybe Rick should read this (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sellout) definition of a sellout on Urban Dictionary before he screws LP over any more. Emphasis on the first entry of that definition because it's exactly what happened with MTM.

If there was any pressure from the label what-so-ever, it's far more likely that it was to make another HT/Meteora since LP already had a huge following from those records, it would have been a guaranteed cash-cow.

You want a propper difinition of "Sellout"?
The sacrifice of artistic integrity for monetary gain.

Now, LP have stated countless times that the style of HT/Meteora WAS NOT CHALLENGING TO WRITE ANYMORE. (demonstrated by writing QWERTY in a week)
So what would be the reason for making more albums like that?
The only reason I can see would be to sell records. "Hey the formula works guys! Lets just keep tossing it out, the fans will lap it up!"
Making music for the fans is selling out too. As long as LP make music for themselves first and foremost, then I'll respect them, reguardless of wether or not I like the music they're making. (I happen to think MTM is their best effort)

So they changed, challenged themselves artistically making a style of music they'd never really come close to before and took a huge risk doing so. They knew they were risking their fanbase (ie. their money) but went ahead anyway, and subsequently made some of their best songs (TLTGYA, In Pieces, NMS, Shadow of The Day).

Now, can you tell me where exactly that fits in to ->The sacrifice of artistic integrity for monetary gain.??

LP didn't sellout. You just don't like the new style of music, and thats fine, you're entitled to your opinion, just stop spouting bullshit based on unfounded facts and backwards logic.

Have a nice day.:D

[caha92]

i agree with most people here in that LP needed a change. not dissing their older stuff, i think it's the best music in the world, but any more of that and honestly, it would get really boring. a lot of their old songs sound similar to each other anyway, so bringing out another album with that same style wouldn't have been a good idea.
it's like, you can have too much of a good thing. we don't need anymore songs in their old style, we can just enjoy what they've already done and look forward to their new and different stuff in the future.

[AmyLynette_91]

watever..... no comments.. but we know LP is the best!! yeahh!

[SHiFTSykosis5]

watever..... no comments.. but we know LP is the best!! yeahh!

Er... we do? :confused:

[NoFace]

Er... we do? :confused:

hahaha. dope avator there

[rEEcEJ]

for god sake, he'll mature in 2 months time and love it :D

[mikeshinodaslilbro]

personally i think Minutes to Midnight is a great album the best album iv heard since meteora and i love there new sound i wuldnt mind if sumtimes they did a song like there older stuff but only on a lpu cd tht wuld b kl instead of just a bunch of live tracks

[Fallenlp]

Hahaha Minutes to midnight was a good album and i hate AFI hahaha...

[MissNatalie1984]

My question is: Why does LP's newest album, Minutes to Midnight, suck so bad compared to all their other albums?
They claim that they were trying to go for a "new" sound. No, they were trying to go emo on us and completely F'ed up the entire album. If we didn't like the "old" sound we never would have bought the first albums at all. Minutes to Midnight is total crap and anyone who disagrees, I'm sure, listens to AFI or some other idiot bands.Go back and listen to Meteora and Hybrid Theory and then listen to Minutes to Midnight and honestly tell me that Minutes to Midnight is better than those. You can't!
They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels.
Look at reviews on NME.com, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both received a 7/10, Minutes to Midnight a 2/10.
Get back to what we liked in the first place and stop trying to go with the crowd of all the S***** emo bands. Get Mike back in there with his raps and bring back the kick ass guitar rythms.


You have personally insulted me on so many levels that i feel the need to make an example of you.

Asides from your whole statement being complete crap, I have highlighted all the parts in your statement that i feel are no more than ignorant musings and unlike a few people that post here i am not going to just say you're wrong and leave it at that, i'm going to back up what i say with reasons as to why i feel you're wrong.

Lets start with that word that you seem to like to use so much and is also a word that i can't fucking stand. EMO. Please explain to me how LP have all of a sudden gone emo. you do know that the word emo is an abbreviation for the word emotion/al, right? i hate to burst your bubble, but ALL music carries some sort of emotional strings attached to it. Maybe you have no feelings, which in turn has hindered and misguided your judgement, but to me, and most likely to a lot of people on this board, LP's music makes us feel some sort of emotion, which is interpreted differently by each one of us. so your use of the word emo, clearly is out of context. How can you say LP are emo now, when i can go far back to when somewhere i belong came out and remember the emotional strings it hit with me when i first heard it? Emo is the most fucking ridiculous term when people are trying to label a specific genre of music. ALL music is emo, no matter what genre it is, how it's performed or how it's interpreted. so get over it.

Secondly, i LIKE M2M, but because i do, you're telling me that because i'm disagreeing with you, i must listen to "AFI and other idiot bands"? Listen to me, you little shit - i'll have you know i do not like AFI, nor are the other bands that i do like "idiots". What you have just said just proves to me how incompetent your brain and way of thinking really is. Do not come on these boards and make generalisations about other people, because you will find, that on most cases, people will not agree with what your generalisation is. You just come across as looking stupid.

"They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels" - how is this so? which bands in particular are they insulting and how are they doing it on so many levels? don't just make a claim without reinforcing it. it's annoying.

and lastly, how are they trying to go with the crowd of shitty emo bands? again, i'd like to reinforce all music is emo - so already this statement is stupid. and also, M2M is, if anything, experimental (IMO)from LP's POV. yes, it's a different sound, yes it's a different direction that the band is going in, and YES lots of us also like all of LP's old stuff, but musically, why aren't they allowed to try something new? AND, who says that no one likes their new stuff? how is what their doing "going with the crowd"?

you then go on in other posts to mention the word sellout... jesus fucking christ, go read a book on terminology or something. How can LP be selling out? They took a completely different approach on M2M - and because of this, M2M could've flopped as an album, it mightn't have been any good, it might've faced a backlash from people (it did anyways). To sellout is to conform to what people consider to be at a specific time "the norm" and to make monetary gain from it. M2M - because of it's different style - could've lost LP a lot of money - so how is it that they're selling out?

I don't make it a priority to single out people on the board and make an example of them, but your statement infuriated me so much i felt i had to.

If YOU don't like M2M, that's fine, that's your prerogative, but you might wanna think about phrasing what you're going to say BEFORE you actually post. don't hate something then bring everyone down with you because you think a certain way and because you think everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. that just proves that you're an ignorant person with a small mind and with no capability to accept the difference in people's opinions and thoughts.

you have every right to express your own opinion, but don't make accusations and assumptions about other people and drag them down while doing so, because ultimately, you will get grilled about it, just like am i am doing so to you right now.

[Irishman4]

Dude, Minutes to Midnight is amazing. i mean, Bleed it out, Give Up, Hands Held High, No More Sorrow, all of them AMAZING songs ROCK ON

[Isandula]

I can see where some might not like after the first two albums but it really is a good album, MTM that is. At first glance it might seem bland (compared to the other two) but give it go, music and lyrics are top notch and there is more depth to them.

And anyway there are songs similar to the other albums, Bleed it out, What I've Done (to some extent), No More Sorrow and Given Up (though the latter two are more rock), so its not the whole album is completely different.

[BillieJean]

My question is: Why does LP's newest album, Minutes to Midnight, suck so bad compared to all their other albums?
They claim that they were trying to go for a "new" sound. No, they were trying to go emo on us and completely F'ed up the entire album. If we didn't like the "old" sound we never would have bought the first albums at all. Minutes to Midnight is total crap and anyone who disagrees, I'm sure, listens to AFI or some other idiot bands.
Go back and listen to Meteora and Hybrid Theory and then listen to Minutes to Midnight and honestly tell me that Minutes to Midnight is better than those. You can't!
They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels.
Look at reviews on NME.com, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both received a 7/10, Minutes to Midnight a 2/10.
Get back to what we liked in the first place and stop trying to go with the crowd of all the S***** emo bands. Get Mike back in there with his raps and bring back the kick ass guitar rythms.

i agree with u up to a point..

when i bought the cd and listened to it i thought that something was going wrong..i actually thought that it was broken because 'wake' starts with a weird sound...i was really desappointed...but after listening to it 3 or so times..and after opening my mind and realising that LP had to make the differnce with this album...i really loved it!!

the lyrics of some songs are really pessimistic but some other songs are so different and so great...


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[I_B_Long]

You have personally insulted me on so many levels that i feel the need to make an example of you.

Asides from your whole statement being complete crap, I have highlighted all the parts in your statement that i feel are no more than ignorant musings and unlike a few people that post here i am not going to just say you're wrong and leave it at that, i'm going to back up what i say with reasons as to why i feel you're wrong.

Lets start with that word that you seem to like to use so much and is also a word that i can't fucking stand. EMO. Please explain to me how LP have all of a sudden gone emo. you do know that the word emo is an abbreviation for the word emotion/al, right? i hate to burst your bubble, but ALL music carries some sort of emotional strings attached to it. Maybe you have no feelings, which in turn has hindered and misguided your judgement, but to me, and most likely to a lot of people on this board, LP's music makes us feel some sort of emotion, which is interpreted differently by each one of us. so your use of the word emo, clearly is out of context. How can you say LP are emo now, when i can go far back to when somewhere i belong came out and remember the emotional strings it hit with me when i first heard it? Emo is the most fucking ridiculous term when people are trying to label a specific genre of music. ALL music is emo, no matter what genre it is, how it's performed or how it's interpreted. so get over it.

Secondly, i LIKE M2M, but because i do, you're telling me that because i'm disagreeing with you, i must listen to "AFI and other idiot bands"? Listen to me, you little shit - i'll have you know i do not like AFI, nor are the other bands that i do like "idiots". What you have just said just proves to me how incompetent your brain and way of thinking really is. Do not come on these boards and make generalisations about other people, because you will find, that on most cases, people will not agree with what your generalisation is. You just come across as looking stupid.

"They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels" - how is this so? which bands in particular are they insulting and how are they doing it on so many levels? don't just make a claim without reinforcing it. it's annoying.

and lastly, how are they trying to go with the crowd of shitty emo bands? again, i'd like to reinforce all music is emo - so already this statement is stupid. and also, M2M is, if anything, experimental (IMO)from LP's POV. yes, it's a different sound, yes it's a different direction that the band is going in, and YES lots of us also like all of LP's old stuff, but musically, why aren't they allowed to try something new? AND, who says that no one likes their new stuff? how is what their doing "going with the crowd"?

you then go on in other posts to mention the word sellout... jesus fucking christ, go read a book on terminology or something. How can LP be selling out? They took a completely different approach on M2M - and because of this, M2M could've flopped as an album, it mightn't have been any good, it might've faced a backlash from people (it did anyways). To sellout is to conform to what people consider to be at a specific time "the norm" and to make monetary gain from it. M2M - because of it's different style - could've lost LP a lot of money - so how is it that they're selling out?

I don't make it a priority to single out people on the board and make an example of them, but your statement infuriated me so much i felt i had to.

If YOU don't like M2M, that's fine, that's your prerogative, but you might wanna think about phrasing what you're going to say BEFORE you actually post. don't hate something then bring everyone down with you because you think a certain way and because you think everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. that just proves that you're an ignorant person with a small mind and with no capability to accept the difference in people's opinions and thoughts.

you have every right to express your own opinion, but don't make accusations and assumptions about other people and drag them down while doing so, because ultimately, you will get grilled about it, just like am i am doing so to you right now.

i know im a bit late, but i agree with every word missNatalie said.
if i didnt know any better, i'd say the original poster is my husband. he spews this kind of bullshit all the time too. not so much when im around tho, cuz he knows i hand out verbal spankings to people who make such infuriatingly stupid statements.
in this case, missnatalie did the spanking. kudos to her.
FYI, i liked MTM better than Meteora becauseit wasNOT the same thing again.

[Skullina]

My question is: Why does LP's newest album, Minutes to Midnight, suck so bad compared to all their other albums?
They claim that they were trying to go for a "new" sound. No, they were trying to go emo on us and completely F'ed up the entire album. If we didn't like the "old" sound we never would have bought the first albums at all. Minutes to Midnight is total crap and anyone who disagrees, I'm sure, listens to AFI or some other idiot bands.
Go back and listen to Meteora and Hybrid Theory and then listen to Minutes to Midnight and honestly tell me that Minutes to Midnight is better than those. You can't!
They try to call it classic rock; that is an insult to so many bands on so many levels.
Look at reviews on NME.com, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both received a 7/10, Minutes to Midnight a 2/10.
Get back to what we liked in the first place and stop trying to go with the crowd of all the S***** emo bands. Get Mike back in there with his raps and bring back the kick ass guitar rythms.

thats exactly the same i thought when MTM came out. but i dont think its that bad. i mean, its good to change and not to stand at the place where you started from, and i think it was predictable, but anyway, i dont really like it that much as i like the albums before. linkin park are the band who brought me to music ^^ because of them i wanted to learn how to play guitar ... the time was was absolutely great, but now i cannot identify myself anymore with the sound. i dont say that they should stay at their old sound, i just say that i dont like it that much as the old stuff and this is my personal opinion. i think its sad when bands are getting too popular and they assimilate themselves to the mainstream.


p.s.: sorry if the grammar isnt right sometimes xD hope you understood me ^^

[zech004]

Oh Jesus, the sellout card. Holy shit, as soon as a band gets big or wants to experiment, they're sellouts. I don't see why an artist has to do everything for their fans. Sure, it's nice to appreciate your fans, but there's one problem with this sellout business: IT'S THEIR MUSIC, NOT YOURS. Get the hell over it already. Do you understand that these bands have families to feed and playing to crowds of 200 just doesn't cut it? Stop being so goddam selfish...thinking that the artist is there for you. True, they are and should be there for the fans, but their world doesn't revolve around you. Stuff it.

And secondly, their old music wasn't THAT great to begin with. Tell me, besides sounding cool and being catchy, how was it so impressive that it blew everything else out of the water? You claim that anybody that listens to MTM doesn't know good music. Well, I got something to share with you. The majority of people who know a thing or two about music will tell you that Linkin Park, especially their older stuff, SUCKS (their opinion, not mine). You can't go up to an old rocker or a rock music enthusiast and say, "Linkin Park's the best." Their response may be too much for you to handle.

Holy crap you won the Dumb@ass award of the day. NO ONE thinks their old music sucks u moron. Especially here on the forums...So speak for yourself you jackass.

From all the polls ive seen Everyone likes the older stuff more then the newer. So dont talk. Youll just prove what a idiot you are. Because your preaching in the wrong place. Their old stuff set records...but wait it sucks? how did it manage to do that then?

Maybe cause it doesnt suck. Your stupid..Go play in traffic. You suck at life.

[Isandula]

Heres a simple answer, the old stuff rocks and the new stuff, well, rocks too. Jeez wasnt that simple.