Alice In Chains lead singer, Layne Staley, is dead.

[Widge]

Layne Staley, Alice In Chains Singer, Dead At 34
Influential vocalist's struggle with drugs was key component of band's music.

By Joe D'Angelo and Robert Mancini

Alice in Chains' Layne Staley was found dead in his Seattle home on Friday evening.

The King County Medical Examiner positively identified Staley's body on Saturday (April 20), following an autopsy. Exact time and cause of death are pending, as laboratory results could take several weeks, a spokesperson said. Staley was 34.

Police responded to a call to check on Staley's well-being that was placed by a family member who claimed to have not spoken to Staley for two weeks. They arrived at Staley's address with the family member in Seattle's University District at 5:41 p.m. PT on Friday, according to the police report. Upon discovering his body on the couch surrounded by intravenous drug paraphernalia, according to the Associated Press, officers called investigators from the medical examiner's office, who arrived on the scene at approximately 7:30-8:00 p.m., a spokesperson said. Authorities said he'd been dead for several days, so the body wasn't immediately identifiable as that of Staley, whose longtime battle with drug dependency was a central component of his band's music — a dark and bombastic sound that continues to influence artists some 15 years after the group first formed.

With Staley as their scowling, tortured frontman, Alice in Chains claimed a spot as the darkest and hardest band of the early '90s grunge movement, bringing a healthy dose of metal to the new movement. Born in Kirkland, Washington, in 1967, Staley formed Alice in Chains while still a high school student in the mid-'80s. The singer soon formed a friendship with guitarist Jerry Cantrell, who joined the band in 1987 and provided the other half of the group's creative core. Drummer Sean Kinney and bassist Mike Starr (replaced in 1992 by Mike Inez) soon followed, and the band landed a deal with Columbia Records in 1989.

The band's 1990 debut, Facelift, found a home at both college rock and classic rock radio outlets, chiefly on the strength of the single "Man in the Box." The album soon went gold, and the band followed it with an appearance on the soundtrack to Cameron Crowe's Seattle love letter, "Singles." With anticipation high, the band delivered Dirt in 1992, pushing AIC to triple platinum status with caustic tracks such as "Angry Chair," "Rooster" and "Them Bones." A prime spot on Lollapalooza soon followed, but the trek would be the band's last major tour and Alice in Chains would be hard pressed to maintain their momentum.

Alice in Chains released the EP Jar of Flies in 1994 and a self-titled album in 1995, but they did not tour to support either offering. During this relatively quiet time, Staley provided vocals for the 1995 debut album from Mad Season, which also featured Pearl Jam's Mike McCready and the Screaming Trees' Barrett Martin. While rumors swirled about Staley's declining health and drug dependency, the group surfaced in 1996 to perform on MTV's "Unplugged" series. Save for a series of compilations cobbled together by Columbia, it would be the last music Alice in Chains would release.

Cantrell pursued a solo career, releasing Boggy Depot (which also featured AIC's Inez and Kinney) in 1998, further fueling rumors that Staley was in ill health. The singer did little to quiet the rumors with his one-off appearance alongside Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello, Jane's Addiction drummer Stephen Perkins and Porno for Pyros bassist Martyn LeNoble on a cover of Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall" that appeared on the soundtrack of 1998's "The Faculty."

While Staley's output had greatly diminished in recent years, his influence hasn't. Traces of the frontman's distinct vocal style and Alice in Chains' thick-as-a-brick sound can be heard in the work of Godsmack, Creed, Staind, Puddle of Mudd, Adema and a host of others.
source: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1453520/20020420/alice_in_chains.jhtml

RIP Layne, we will miss you!

[SykosisSHiFT]

Not my style certainly, but you have to give credit where credit is due. He had talent.

[Widge]

http://www.erie.net/~holliday/LAYNEH3.JPG
:(:(:(

bury me softly in this womb
i give this part of me for you
sand rains down in here i sit
holding rare flowers in a tomb...in bloom...
down in a hole and i don't know if i can be saved
see my heart, i decorate it like a grave
you don't understand who they thought I was supposed to be
look at me now, a man who won't let himself be
down in a hole, feelin' so small
down in a hole, losin' my soul
i'd like to fly, but my wings have been so denied
down in a hole and they've put all the stones in their place
i've eaten the sun so my tongue has been burned of the taste
i have been guilty of kicking myself in the teeth
i will speak no more of my feelings beneath
down in a hole, feelin' so small
down in a hole, losin' my soul
i'd like to fly but my wings have been so denied
bury me softly in this womb
oh i want to be inside of you
i give this part of me for you
oh i want to be inside of you
sand rains down in here i sit
holding rare flowers
oh i want to be inside of you
in a tomb...in bloom...
oh i want to be inside...
down in a hole, feelin' so small
down in a hole, losin' my soul
down in a hole, feelin' so small
down in a hole, outta control
i'd like to fly but my wings have been so denied...

[Widge]

ITT: i expect cameos from reaperman, linkinvixen, Jinxx, amorous intent, rotten apple and many other LAYNE STALEY RIP THREAD OF INFINITE LONGEVITY alumni.

[BillSussman]

http://archive.forums.linkinpark.com/showthread.php?t=147655

[Temperance]

Glad to see someone else appreciated this thread. I started a new thread about him back in April, and was greatly disappointed to see the lack of response. Ahh, reaperman. I wonder what ever happened to him?

[BillSussman]

Glad to see someone else appreciated this thread. I started a new thread about him back in April, and was greatly disappointed to see the lack of response. Ahh, reaperman. I wonder what ever happened to him?

four words.

transexual shemale snuff porn.

[Temperance]

four words.

transexual shemale snuff porn.

I love you.

[SHiFTSykosis1]

Isn't "transexual shemale" mildly redundant?

[BillSussman]

Isn't "transexual shemale" mildly redundant?

well, it depends really. by definition a transexual is someone who has went through a sex change operation or who has sexual identification with the opposite sex. a shemale on the other hand is a female with male genitalia.

think of it as chicks with dicks screwing guys living a lie. or vice versa.

and don't forget the eventual murder sequence.

[Blood_Pearl]

and don't forget the eventual murder sequence.

i love how you form your sentences on this board. and that includes the content.

[JiNxX]

ITT: i expect cameos from reaperman, linkinvixen, Jinxx, amorous intent, rotten apple and many other LAYNE STALEY RIP THREAD OF INFINITE LONGEVITY alumni.
well, far be it from me to disappoint.

[JiNxX]

come on now, I come back from the void and nobody is even around? lame!

[Temperance]

Awww, sorry! I must admit, it's a shock seeing you posting again!

[JiNxX]

Awww, sorry! I must admit, it's a shock seeing you posting again!
hello Tiernan!

does that mean you remember me? I'll confess that I don't remember you (under your current name, anyway), but Helen was nice enough to tell me your name in the old schoolers' thread.

[On_My_Own]

Omg...:( :( :(

[tearofangel]

like his song ''we die young'' he died young..

[Temperance]

hello Tiernan!

does that mean you remember me? I'll confess that I don't remember you (under your current name, anyway), but Helen was nice enough to tell me your name in the old schoolers' thread.

I remember you! It's Mike, right? And I am sooo sorry if it isn't. Yay for Helen. :D

So how have you been?

[algerian]

some fresh air

[JiNxX]

I remember you! It's Mike, right? And I am sooo sorry if it isn't. Yay for Helen. :D

So how have you been?

yes ma'am, that's me. I've been... erm... feeling empty as of late. came back here out of curiosity. hoping to fill (or at least cover up) the void. so far it's not working. what name did you use previously here? surprised by your sig and that I never saw you post in the old Layne thread.

[Temperance]

yes ma'am, that's me. I've been... erm... feeling empty as of late. came back here out of curiosity. hoping to fill (or at least cover up) the void. so far it's not working. what name did you use previously here? surprised by your sig and that I never saw you post in the old Layne thread.

There have been a lot of people coming back for that reason lately. Sorry to hear you're feeling empty, I've been there and it sucks.

I've had this name almost since the beginning. I posted mostly in the LC, and just kind of lurked in the Barracks. I never posted much in the old Layne thread, at least not in the beginning. It was really painful at the time (as I'm sure you know), and it got to be a pretty cliquey (not sure if that's a word lol) thread, so I just felt like I was intruding.

We're naming our son Layne. We felt it was the best tribute we could make to such an amazing guy. And I recently found out I'm scheduled to have him on June 22nd, which is exactly two months before Layne's actual birthday.

[Rob1]

We're naming our son Layne.

Fucking awesome.

[Temperance]

Fucking awesome.

I know, right? Thanks!

The coolest part about the whole thing is that we're actually going to meet Layne Staley's Mother at the tribute this summer. I got in touch with her through the Layne Staley Fund on MySpace. She keeps a photo album of all the baby Layne's that have been born. I am beyond excited about it.

[Rob1]

I know, right? Thanks!

The coolest part about the whole thing is that we're actually going to meet Layne Staley's Mother at the tribute this summer. I got in touch with her through the Layne Staley Fund on MySpace. She keeps a photo album of all the baby Layne's that have been born. I am beyond excited about it.

That is really fucking awesome.

Teach your kid how to rock, so in 20 years we'll have some good, kick ass music.

Wish my name was Layne. Such a kick ass name.

[Praemorior]

holy fuck...THIS THREAD.

EDIT: wait, what the fuck. THIS IS A FUCKING CLONE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.

[Praemorior]

come on now, I come back from the void and nobody is even around? lame!

hey Mike.

i got married, and not to Corinne.;)

how are you treating life these days?

[Praemorior]

Omg...:( :( :(

are you fucking kidding me?

[Rob1]

EDIT: wait, what the fuck. THIS IS A FUCKING CLONE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.

Clone of a clone. There was one before it too.

[Praemorior]

Clone of a clone. There was one before it too.

this is fucking bullshit.

[Rob1]

this is fucking bullshit.

Don't blame me. I didn't do it.

[Widge]

This isn't a clone of a clone. Tiernan made a thread about Remembering Staley on the anniversary of his death and there was probably one of those "LOL Alice In Chains Singer Layne Staley Is STILL dead" threads that have happened like five dozen times in the past few years of these boards.

come on now, I come back from the void and nobody is even around? lame! Awesome. You know, when I made that comment about expected cameos you're the only one I figured had the best chance of showing up.

[Praemorior]

i'm talking about all the history contained in the original. shit, i only posted in it like three times, but just reading through it, reading posts from 2001, was such a fucking time machine.

[Temperance]

i'm talking about all the history contained in the original. shit, i only posted in it like three times, but just reading through it, reading posts from 2001, was such a fucking time machine.

I know what you mean. I went back and read through a lot of it back in April. It was like a history lesson of the boards. I'm glad it was recreated. Not that a lot of the newer members will appreciate it, but I know I do.

[JiNxX]

There have been a lot of people coming back for that reason lately. Sorry to hear you're feeling empty, I've been there and it sucks.

I've had this name almost since the beginning. I posted mostly in the LC, and just kind of lurked in the Barracks. I never posted much in the old Layne thread, at least not in the beginning. It was really painful at the time (as I'm sure you know), and it got to be a pretty cliquey (not sure if that's a word lol) thread, so I just felt like I was intruding.

We're naming our son Layne. We felt it was the best tribute we could make to such an amazing guy. And I recently found out I'm scheduled to have him on June 22nd, which is exactly two months before Layne's actual birthday.
yeah... it comes and goes...

hmm OK... well I wish we'd have met sooner is all. me and Alison (Rotten Apple) and the others that kept that thread alive thought at the time that we were mostly alone here heh.

that's awesome. :)

hey Mike.

i got married, and not to Corinne.;)

how are you treating life these days?
haha hey Josh. I was about to ask who you were until I spent two seconds thinking about it. congrats on the marriage.

well, as you might have seen up above, I'm back because my life is boring, so there ya go. still following Celldweller? I keep getting the letters from the mailing list... waiting for that next album to drop!

Awesome. You know, when I made that comment about expected cameos you're the only one I figured had the best chance of showing up.
hey Widge... heh, I don't quite know how to take that. :p I still talk to Alison (Rotten Apple) pretty regularly, and I mentioned to her that not only was I back here posting, but that there was a new Layne thread. I think she shat a brick. don't know if she's going to make an appearance though.

i'm talking about all the history contained in the original. shit, i only posted in it like three times, but just reading through it, reading posts from 2001, was such a fucking time machine.
I hear ya... there was one post in there where Alison said that she was getting old because she was 25 (I think)... and she called herself a geezer, and I said no, that was when you turn 30. (sorry Tiernan! *hug*) anyway Alison is turning 30 this year and I showed her that post and she got all upset hahah.

[Temperance]

The newest Layne has made his appearance! He was born June 20th at 4:09am. I just wanted to keep everyone posted!

And Mike, it's okay. I saw that post when I was reading through the archives and practically fell over laughing while i was reading it!

[JiNxX]

The newest Layne has made his appearance! He was born June 20th at 4:09am. I just wanted to keep everyone posted!

And Mike, it's okay. I saw that post when I was reading through the archives and practically fell over laughing while i was reading it!

congrats Tiernan!! :D

[Temperance]

congrats Tiernan!! :D

Thanks Mike!!!

[Temperance]

I feel the need to keep this thread alive. Can I get some help please?!

I'm a bit excited today. I got another email from the Layne Staley Fund. I had sent them pictures of the baby, and Suzanne replied back to me asking if she could use a few of them in the slideshow she is creating for this years tribute, as well as the MySpace page. Duh, of course I said yes!

[Rob1]

http://xa8.xanga.com/b9ea121676d3246639595/b30205275.jpeg

Cobain didn't have shit on this man.

[Temperance]

http://xa8.xanga.com/b9ea121676d3246639595/b30205275.jpeg

Cobain didn't have shit on this man.

Yay, thanks Joe!!! I'll have to post some of my pictures later today.

[Flames_Go_Higher]

I feel the need to keep this thread alive. Can I get some help please?!

I'm a bit excited today. I got another email from the Layne Staley Fund. I had sent them pictures of the baby, and Suzanne replied back to me asking if she could use a few of them in the slideshow she is creating for this years tribute, as well as the MySpace page. Duh, of course I said yes!

Wow that's really cool. :)

[Temperance]

Wow that's really cool. :)

Oh yes. And I just found out that I'm going to meet with all of them on Aug. 22nd, and they are going to hold tickets for me for the tribute on the 23rd! Thank God, because I wouldn't be able to afford them otherwise. So I figured I would bring the baby to the vigil n the 22nd, and then my hubby and I can go to the tribute on the 23rd. Woohoo!!!

[Flames_Go_Higher]

Oh wow that sounds doubly amazing. :)

So, is this a yearly thing or is it an anniversary?

[Temperance]

Oh wow that sounds doubly amazing. :)

So, is this a yearly thing or is it an anniversary?

They do a tribute every year on or around his birthday, which is August 22nd. This is the first year I've been able to go. I usually go on my vacation to visit family in Ohio in August, so I always miss it. Since the baby is too young to travel, I'll be around this year.
There is a candlelight vigil on Friday night, at the fountain in Seattle where the first vigil took place. Then they do a tribute show with a bunch of bands on Saturday night. I'm not sure who the bands are yet, but I'm pretty sure they've posted it on their MySpace page.

[Flames_Go_Higher]

Ooh wow that sounds really nice (except, obviously for the reason why it's happening). It'll be really nice when Layne will be able to go to it aswell. :)

[Temperance]

I'll be taking my Layne to the vigil Friday night, and we'll be able to hang out with the entire group from LSF. And I just checked their page, the bands are Tantric, Hurt, Future Fossils, and Riverbend. It's supposed to be a really relaxed show, where everyone can get together and share memories...whatever. Now I just have to wait a month until the event! :p

[Flames_Go_Higher]

Ooh sounds really good. :) Although I have to say I never heard of any of those bands lol.

[Temperance]

It's okay, I've only heard of two of them! :p

[Temperance]

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid37079519/bclid37019440/bctid14210985

Bleed the Freak, one of my favorite songs...

It's a Sony site, so you have to sit through the 15 second ad first. Sorry...

[JiNxX]

I feel the need to keep this thread alive. Can I get some help please?!

I'm a bit excited today. I got another email from the Layne Staley Fund. I had sent them pictures of the baby, and Suzanne replied back to me asking if she could use a few of them in the slideshow she is creating for this years tribute, as well as the MySpace page. Duh, of course I said yes!
nice, nice.

I'll be taking my Layne to the vigil Friday night, and we'll be able to hang out with the entire group from LSF. And I just checked their page, the bands are Tantric, Hurt, Future Fossils, and Riverbend. It's supposed to be a really relaxed show, where everyone can get together and share memories...whatever. Now I just have to wait a month until the event! :p
Tantric and Hurt! sweet. that's reason enough to go right there, even if the other two suck.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid37079519/bclid37019440/bctid14210985

Bleed the Freak, one of my favorite songs...

It's a Sony site, so you have to sit through the 15 second ad first. Sorry...
oh man, great song. can't believe I forgot about this one when I posted that survey on myspace last week...

[Rob1]

Tantric is still around? Nice.

[Temperance]

I would quote you guys, but for some reason my quick reply/quoting doesn't work properly. :confused:

I got my tickets!!! Suzanne (from LSF) is going to hold them for me and I'll pick them up at the vigil.

Mike, how could you forget that song?! :eek:

And thank you to everyone for helping me keep the thread going. :)

[JiNxX]

Mike, how could you forget that song?! :eek:

And thank you to everyone for helping me keep the thread going. :)
LOL I dunno :(

I feel it is my charge as the only remaining keeper of the original Layne thread to help you keep this one. :)

[Temperance]

LOL I dunno :(

I feel it is my charge as the only remaining keeper of the original Layne thread to help you keep this one. :)

Awesome. There is just a huge lack of AiC and Layne Staley fans left around here. Can you believe I actually got PM's asking me who Layne Staley was?! It was horrifying.

[JiNxX]

Awesome. There is just a huge lack of AiC and Layne Staley fans left around here. Can you believe I actually got PM's asking me who Layne Staley was?! It was horrifying.
I'm not surprised... it wasn't much better previously. and before, the few people that did know who he was would come into the thread and say "didn't he die like years ago??"

[Temperance]

I'm not surprised... it wasn't much better previously. and before, the few people that did know who he was would come into the thread and say "didn't he die like years ago??"

I know! I can't remember how many times I went into the thread, and someone was like "oh man, that sucks." I'm thinking, ummm, this happened 4 years ago (at the time anyway). I read something recently where Jerry was quoted as saying he was pissed because he felt like Layne's death was being swept under the rug. I feel the same way everytime I see someone talking about Kurt Cobain. Not to start a Kurt Vs. Layne thing, but it really bothers me that it seems like no one remembers Layne. :(

And here's my picture for today...
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/2008LSFT.jpg

[Temperance]

I'll add a few more pics. Mostly since I spent the last 2 hours organizing my photobucket account.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/layne1-1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/87e990b2.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/Layneinwheelchair.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/laynestaley-2.jpg

[Rob1]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/020422/10361__layne_l.jpg

[JiNxX]

I do not have any Layne pictures to contribute... but I'll bet I know who does.

I'll see if I can convince Alison to come post here again.

[tearofangel]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/840501/layne_staley_583x783.jpg

http://www.obituary.cc/photos/fallen/layne_staley.jpg

http://www.aliceinchains.neostrada.pl/layne4.jpg

so sweet =)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/bamba628/Alicia%20Jane/layne/ESTATEcurls.jpg

[tearofangel]

http://escoladorock.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/layne-staley.jpg

[Temperance]

I do not have any Layne pictures to contribute... but I'll bet I know who does.

I'll see if I can convince Alison to come post here again.

That would be incredible, thanks Mike!

And yay, we have a new poster with something to contribute!

[Monty_Python]

Yeah there's like six people on this board who get this thread.

I made one a long time ago commemorating the death of the Layne Staley is dead thread and got like four replies. It sucked.

[110]

Your Alexisonfire thread was better.

[Monty_Python]

Ermmm, remind me?

[Monty_Python]

Oh wait haha I remember. Is it Alexis On Fire or Alex Is On Fire?

I was surprised that some people thought that it was Alex Is...

Good thread.

[36_crazyfists]

i remember that thread, or to be more specific, remember someone saying "why the hell would anyone name their band alex is on fire", or something.

[Temperance]

Yeah there's like six people on this board who get this thread.

I made one a long time ago commemorating the death of the Layne Staley is dead thread and got like four replies. It sucked.

That must have been while I was gone from the "new" boards, because I don't remember it. I'm sure I would have posted in it.

[Temperance]

My pictures for today...

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/l_grind1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/6b2c.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/4819.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/layne42.jpg

[Temperance]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI73bmBqERg

Love Hate Love, recorded in Seattle, 1989.

My favorite AiC song ever. And to actually watch him sing it? Amazing.

[JiNxX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI73bmBqERg

Love Hate Love, recorded in Seattle, 1989.

My favorite AiC song ever. And to actually watch him sing it? Amazing.
wow... that's an old video.

part of me is like, "eh, that was only in 1989, not that long ago." and then I think about it and realize that next year that'll be twenty years ago.

[Temperance]

I know, I can't believe how long ago it was. I mean really, 20 years?! It's just crazy. It's things like this that make me feel old sometimes. :p

[Temperance]

*bump*

Haha, I haven't had to bump anything in aaaaaaaages.

Anywho...only 8 days to go until the Tribute weekend!!!

[Blood_Pearl]

"eh, that was only in 1989, not that long ago." and then I think about it and realize that next year that'll be twenty years ago.
i get that way with 1999, only it's ten years ago. but then again,i was eleven.

[Temperance]

I can finally write that the tribute starts the day after tomorrow! And Mike, I just read that they'll be streaming the Sat. night tribute on the internet. If you go to their MySpace page (Layne Staley Fund) there is a link to it. The two bigger bands are Tantric and Hurt.

Woooooo, I can't wait!

[Kimmerly]

And here I was, thinking this thread was gone forever. I don't know if I love or hate you, Widge.

[Squishy_Ho]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI73bmBqERg

Love Hate Love, recorded in Seattle, 1989.

My favorite AiC song ever. And to actually watch him sing it? Amazing.

i hope you do realise i might not have been born when that song was recorded.

[Temperance]

i hope you do realise i might not have been born when that song was recorded.

LMAO! I'm sure a lot of people on this board weren't!

[Squishy_Ho]

so i don't wanna hear you say "i'm impressed people ask me who Layne Staley is" when most people were still, like, toddlers when he died. cause i'm included in the bunch, and it sucks, cause i didn't know who he is, i had to ask you too, and even though now i know his name, it still don't know more about Alice In Chains.

there's these kind of things you just can't control, certain knowledge you can't have, because you just weren't there to acknoledge them. i wouldn't know of the stones if they were still touring, cause even though they're a fucking hude band, i didn't hear about them before that. i knew about Queen when i was 8 cause we had a "best of" of them and god knows how much time it would've took me to know about them.

it might sound like a rant, but more like stating facts. i <3 you and stuff, but please taking into considerationg that you're 11 years, if not more, older than me and the other people around here and that we can't ALL know about those kinda things.

[Temperance]

so i don't wanna hear you say "i'm impressed people ask me who Layne Staley is" when most people were still, like, toddlers when he died. cause i'm included in the bunch, and it sucks, cause i didn't know who he is, i had to ask you too, and even though now i know his name, it still don't know more about Alice In Chains.

there's these kind of things you just can't control, certain knowledge you can't have, because you just weren't there to acknoledge them. i wouldn't know of the stones if they were still touring, cause even though they're a fucking hude band, i didn't hear about them before that. i knew about Queen when i was 8 cause we had a "best of" of them and god knows how much time it would've took me to know about them.

it might sound like a rant, but more like stating facts. i <3 you and stuff, but please taking into considerationg that you're 11 years, if not more, older than me and the other people around here and that we can't ALL know about those kinda things.

You're not ranting, I completely understand. I'm sorry I came across that way. It's like when Mike and I were talking about the video from 1989. It doesn't feel like all that long ago until you stop to think about it. I'll admit I have a slight chip on my shoulder when it comes to Layne and the fact that people don't remember him. I respect Kurt Cobain, but it's hard for me to hear everyone talking about him, and never mentioning Layne. I <3 you too, and it's all good.

[Rob1]

Screw Kurt, if he never blew his brains out he'd never be the rock God he's considered now.

Alice In Chains >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nirvana.

[Temperance]

*sigh*

No Kurt vs. Layne wars please. Personally, yes, I prefer AiC to Nirvana.

Anyhow...can I go back to being excited about this weekend?! :p

[Rob1]

My bad.

And yes. Continue. :)

[Moonmike]

Screw Kurt

such a nice way of talking about a dead person...

well, continue your conversations :)

[Girl_Sailor]

screw them all. Elliot Smith.

[Temperance]

screw them all. Elliot Smith.

Hey now! I had Elliot Smith on my list of dead rock starts to bring back! I <3 Elliot Smith...

[Girl_Sailor]

indeed,. he rules.

[Rocksquirrel]

Screw Kurt, if he never blew his brains out he'd never be the rock God he's considered now.

Alice In Chains >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nirvana.

stop impressing some people here :rolleyes:

Layne's dead wasn't glamorous either.

[Temperance]

See? This is what I wanted to avoid. Meh.

Sandra, I agree with you. Layne's death was basically an unintentional suicide, while Kurt's was an obvious suicide. They both died way before they should have.

[Rocksquirrel]

See? This is what I wanted to avoid. Meh.

Sandra, I agree with you. Layne's death was basically an unintentional suicide, while Kurt's was an obvious suicide. They both died way before they should have.

Indeed :)

I just dislike ignorance. I'm sorry.

[Rob1]

stop impressing some people here :rolleyes:


Impressing who?

Anyway, is this really him?
http://www.spock.com/i/VS1Wy6vU/Layne-Staley.jpg

I found it here http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.spock.com/i/VS1Wy6vU/Layne-Staley.jpg&imgrefurl=http://thehorsechronicles.tripod.com/id241.html&h=166&w=120&sz=5&hl=en&start=184&um=1&tbnid=tehKsRVaWHyzfM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=72&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLayne%2BStaley%26start%3D180%26ndsp%3 D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

[Temperance]

Yep, that's him. The picture is included in the booklet that comes with the "Music Bank" box set. They have pictures of everyone from when they were younger. I love that pic, he's so cute, but he looks like he's up to something!

[Rob1]

Keep your sons hair like that when he gets old enough. :)

[Temperance]

If he has blond hair, I will, lol. It's still pretty dark.

[Rob1]

They have Alice in Chain's Unplugged at the record store for $8. I might buy.

[Temperance]

The DVD or the CD?

[Rob1]

The cd...............

[Temperance]

The CD is really good, of course. However, it is slightly different from the DVD. The DVD is the best, because it is so funny when he messes up the song "Sludge Factory," and then yells "FUCK!" really loud. :p

[Rob1]

Oh fun. Makes me want the DVD just for that.

[Temperance]

I'm sure you can find the clip on YouTube.

It's pretty hilarious.

[Rob1]

Found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkO8dk_qOhc

:D :D

[Temperance]

Yep, that's it! Hehe, it's so cute! I love it when he's like "what's my motivation here?" :D

[Rob1]

Also, they had Mad Season's album at the store too, might pick that up too.

I never knew Layne drew that album's artwork until just this second
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/MadSeason-Above.jpg

[Temperance]

That is him and his fiance, Demri. It's a drawing he did from a photograph. Please Joe, you should know by now that if you want to know anything about Layne Staley you should ask me! :p

The Mad Season album is good. I put a couple of songs from it over in the Movement forum, under the Pearl Jam thread. My favorite is "Wake Up," the first track.

[Squishy_Ho]

You're not ranting, I completely understand. I'm sorry I came across that way. It's like when Mike and I were talking about the video from 1989. It doesn't feel like all that long ago until you stop to think about it. I'll admit I have a slight chip on my shoulder when it comes to Layne and the fact that people don't remember him. I respect Kurt Cobain, but it's hard for me to hear everyone talking about him, and never mentioning Layne. I <3 you too, and it's all good.

cool i'm glad you understood what i meant lol sometimes i get scared that whatever i wrote isn't what i actually wanted to say and well yeah not the case here so relief!

and personnally, i couldn't care less about kurt either cause hell, i was 5, if not 4, when he died. i mean sure, part of what they did was good but that's about it. same feeling goes towards AIC, though i don't know their music. so yeah if you could shoot me the best songs so i can listen to them i'd be glad to do so! lol

[Temperance]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LAYNE

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Layne%20Staley/5b3e.jpg

[Temperance]

Okay, here are a few pictures from the Vigil last night...

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/LSF%20Tribute/013.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/LSF%20Tribute/008.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/LSF%20Tribute/027.jpg

I'll post some more after tonight. It was an amazing experience to be there last night. Nancy (Layne's Mom) was incredibly nice, and shared some amazing personal stories about Layne. The Vigil was everything I hoped it would be, and I can't wait for tonights show!

[Rob1]

^^^

Awesome. :)

[Linkin_Park_is_No1]

http://360.yahoo.com/my_profile-eTyaagAncra8vkVzJh24EgNv;_ylt=AqFFXv9mJnvYgLtZJ5xs 7um0AOJ3

[Temperance]

Holy shit you guys... Jerry Cantrell and Sean Kinney were at the Tribute last night!!! :eek: I'm still exhausted, and have no voice, so I will post my pics and stuff tomorrow. Last night was unbelievably amazing. Hurt and Tantric completely kicked ass, and Riverbend was a really, really good band. I'm going to see them play next Saturday. Mike, you can still see the show on that synclive website, I watched a little bit of it today. I'm not sure if I'm in it, I'll have to watch the rest tomorrow. We were right up on the railing during Tantric, so we might be in there!

[Rob1]

Holy shit you guys... Jerry Cantrell and Sean Kinney were at the Tribute last night!!! :eek: I'm still exhausted, and have no voice, so I will post my pics and stuff tomorrow. Last night was unbelievably amazing. Hurt and Tantric completely kicked ass, and Riverbend was a really, really good band. I'm going to see them play next Saturday. Mike, you can still see the show on that synclive website, I watched a little bit of it today. I'm not sure if I'm in it, I'll have to watch the rest tomorrow. We were right up on the railing during Tantric, so we might be in there!

Woo! Good to hear you had fun. :)

[JiNxX]

The CD is really good, of course. However, it is slightly different from the DVD. The DVD is the best, because it is so funny when he messes up the song "Sludge Factory," and then yells "FUCK!" really loud. :p
hahaha yeah :D my friend had it on VHS ages ago. I need a DVD of it.

and yes, the CD is awesome.

Found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkO8dk_qOhc

:D :D
hahah... and the shot he takes at MTV, about breaking to an LL Cool J video... and Mike Inez playing the Enter Sandman riff on the bass because the Metallica guys were at the show, with "Friends don't let friends get friends haircuts" written on his bass... I love it.

[JiNxX]

Holy shit you guys... Jerry Cantrell and Sean Kinney were at the Tribute last night!!! :eek: I'm still exhausted, and have no voice, so I will post my pics and stuff tomorrow. Last night was unbelievably amazing. Hurt and Tantric completely kicked ass, and Riverbend was a really, really good band. I'm going to see them play next Saturday. Mike, you can still see the show on that synclive website, I watched a little bit of it today. I'm not sure if I'm in it, I'll have to watch the rest tomorrow. We were right up on the railing during Tantric, so we might be in there!
aww that sounds awesome, Tiernan :D I'm going to check it out tonight if I can.

[Widge]

Whatever happened to Cantrell & Co reviving the band with a new lead singer?

[Temperance]

They did, but as far as I know it was only a temporary thing. They had/have William Duvall as the singer, and they toured for a bit in 2006 and I think 2007. I'm not sure if they have plans for recording a new album or anything. Jerry has said in the past that they would love to move on and create new music, but not as Alice in Chains. It would have to be a new band name.

[Temperance]

Two days after I posted this I got an email about it, lol. They have been working on new songs for an album, and they have been in the studio. They are currently scheduled to head in for recording in October. No info on a release date though.

[JiNxX]

Why get a new lead singer at all? Cantrell is more than capable of taking care vocals on his own.
he is a talented vocalist, but I believe that AiC's harmonic vocals were a large part of their draw. and you just can't do that with one voice. not live, anyways.

[Widge]

Hopefully if they are doing a new album with this guy, the songs live up to how good the band was back when.

And I listened to some stuff with the new guy on Youtube and he seems to be pretty decent, if not pretty good, at doing Layne's little vocal tics.

[wingedstrawberrygirl]

*cries*
It's so sad. I love the song Heroin by AIC.

[JiNxX]

*cries*
It's so sad. I love the song Heroin by AIC.
hello newcomer :)

[Temperance]

All right, more new people! :)

I was having to bump this thread waaaaaay too much, lol.

And for some news...I get to be part of the Tribute staff next year! I am so unbelievably excited. :D

[I_B_Long]

will you have me too?
im kinda new to AIC....

[JiNxX]

All right, more new people! :)

I was having to bump this thread waaaaaay too much, lol.

And for some news...I get to be part of the Tribute staff next year! I am so unbelievably excited. :D
hey Tiernan *hug* that's awesome! what will you be doing?

will you have me too?
im kinda new to AIC....
of course, fellow Warsteiner drinker ;)

it's overdue, but hello, I'm Mike.

[I_B_Long]

of course, fellow Warsteiner drinker ;)

it's overdue, but hello, I'm Mike.

i'm Bianca. and if i wasn't already so tired i'd go downstairs and grab me a warsteiner :) but my head is about to hit the keyboard anyway, the last thing i need now is alcohol...
soooo, since this is an AIC thread, is there any song/album anyone could recommend? i have 2. something "unplugged" and "nothing safe" but i only recently started listenign to them.

[JiNxX]

i'm Bianca. and if i wasn't already so tired i'd go downstairs and grab me a warsteiner :) but my head is about to hit the keyboard anyway, the last thing i need now is alcohol...
soooo, since this is an AIC thread, is there any song/album anyone could recommend? i have 2. something "unplugged" and "nothing safe" but i only recently started listenign to them.
Nothing Safe is a pretty good introduction to Alice, and Unplugged is great because you get to hear the guys interacting with each other and the crowd. so I'd say you started in the right place.

the first Alice album I ever got was the self-titled one (kind of late in their career)... it's still my favorite album. but my favorite song by them is "I Stay Away", from Jar Of Flies.

[Temperance]

Of course you can join us Bianca!!!

Mike, I'm not really sure what I'll be doing yet. I'm supposed to meet with Suzanne in Seattle in the next couple of weeks. I've been going to a lot of local shows in the last 2 weeks, so I've gotten to know a few of the other Tribute staff people.

If I had to recommend an album, I suppose it would be "Dirt." It was their biggest selling album, and it has the most songs that were/are played on the radio. The unplugged album is awesome, I'm glad you have that one.

EDIT: Mike, how could I forget "Jar of Flies?" :eek: My favorite from that EP is Nutshell...so amazing.

[JiNxX]

Mike, I'm not really sure what I'll be doing yet. I'm supposed to meet with Suzanne in Seattle in the next couple of weeks. I've been going to a lot of local shows in the last 2 weeks, so I've gotten to know a few of the other Tribute staff people.

If I had to recommend an album, I suppose it would be "Dirt." It was their biggest selling album, and it has the most songs that were/are played on the radio. The unplugged album is awesome, I'm glad you have that one.

EDIT: Mike, how could I forget "Jar of Flies?" :eek: My favorite from that EP is Nutshell...so amazing.
that's cool.

LOL... and I in turn neglected Dirt. what kind of fan am I?

[Temperance]

that's cool.

LOL... and I in turn neglected Dirt. what kind of fan am I?

Ha, we suck, lol. What kind of "keepers of the thread" are we turning out to be?

[JiNxX]

I still say we need Alison (Rotten Apple) back here haha. she'd whip us into shape.

[Temperance]

Agreed. What happened with you convincing her to come back?

[JiNxX]

Agreed. What happened with you convincing her to come back?
my efforts were less than stellar. as in, not at all, because I forgot. :(

I'm on the AIM now though, waiting to see if she'll come on...

[Temperance]

my efforts were less than stellar. as in, not at all, because I forgot. :(

I'm on the AIM now though, waiting to see if she'll come on...

MIKE!!! How could you forget? Are you saying this place is not the reason for your existence? :p

Awesome, hopefully she'll post a bit. :)

[JiNxX]

MIKE!!! How could you forget? Are you saying this place is not the reason for your existence? :p

Awesome, hopefully she'll post a bit. :)
I know, I suX0r. :(

I doubt she will come back, but we'll see.

[wingedstrawberrygirl]

hello newcomer :)

Why hello there.
=)
*waves*

[JiNxX]

Why hello there.
=)
*waves*
oh good, you came back again haha. a lot of people post once and then disappear.

I'm Mike, nice to meet you.

[wingedstrawberrygirl]

oh good, you came back again haha. a lot of people post once and then disappear.

I'm Mike, nice to meet you.

*shifty eyes*
I lurked here a while before I started posting...

[JiNxX]

*shifty eyes*
I lurked here a while before I started posting...
nothing wrong with that. I do a lot of lurking.

[wingedstrawberrygirl]

nothing wrong with that. I do a lot of lurking.

*nods*
I'm often too lazy to post =]

[JiNxX]

*nods*
I'm often too lazy to post =]
haha... laziness is the reason we are all here :p

[wingedstrawberrygirl]

haha... laziness is the reason we are all here :p

>.<
And there's the good old procrastination...
*looks at school work guiltily*

[Temperance]

>.<
And there's the good old procrastination...
*looks at school work guiltily*

Ha, I totally agree. Practically the only time I post here is when I'm at work. Like now. :p

[wingedstrawberrygirl]

Ha, I totally agree. Practically the only time I post here is when I'm at work. Like now. :p

Yeah..free periods at school really boosted my post counts on various places..but now they've been blocked *cries*

[Temperance]

Yeah..free periods at school really boosted my post counts on various places..but now they've been blocked *cries*
Oh no! I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't post while I was at work, lol. I was miserable yesterday when the ISP crashed for over 6 hours. :p

[Joannam88]

wow, I discovered this band few weeks ago :( would's my fave song. too bad :(

[rabbititus]

Watching AiC's unplugged session makes me want to cry. )':

On a side note though, isn't this thread supposed to be like 2002-old? I remember seeing this on the oldddddddddddd boards. Or did they move all the old threads onto the new board? Meh, i've been away too long.

[Temperance]

I was wondering when you would show up! Yes, this thread was on the old board, but George (Widge) recreated it. And Mike (JiNxX)was one of the keepers of the original thread.

And I know what you mean about the Unplugged...I love watching it, but it's hard at the same time.

[rabbititus]

Nancy mailed me a small package last year with copies of the programme & messages that were read out during Layne's funeral. I sat in my room and bawled like a baby... it was unbelievably surreal, holding such things in your hand.

I read a few pages back that you're on the tribute staff? That's awesome! : D

[Temperance]

Nancy is amazing, she is such a terrific woman. That is awesome that she sent you those things. She told me some great stories about him at the Tribute this year. I won't be working on the staff for a little bit still, and I'm not sure what I'll be doing yet. I can't believe I actually get to do it though, I'm still in awe about the whole thing.

[JiNxX]

>.<
And there's the good old procrastination...
*looks at school work guiltily*
shame shame shame. :p

wow, I discovered this band few weeks ago :( would's my fave song. too bad :(
I'm glad people are still finding them.

Watching AiC's unplugged session makes me want to cry. )':

On a side note though, isn't this thread supposed to be like 2002-old? I remember seeing this on the oldddddddddddd boards. Or did they move all the old threads onto the new board? Meh, i've been away too long.
haha... I think if we could have kept that original thread up this long, we would have ;)

[Cunt]

r.i.p :( :( :(

[Squishy_Ho]

*bump*

10 characters

[Temperance]

Thanks for the bump Dre. :)

*pardon the excitement*

OMG.OMG.OMG.OMG.

I am going to see AiC perform in Arizona on Saturday!!! I just booked my flight, hotel and ticket. Holy shit, I am beyond excited. Not only do I get to see them perform, there is a huge possibility I will get backstage (being part of the Layne Staley Fund). :eek:

Plus, Tantric and the Deftones are also performing.

*collapses*

:D

[JiNxX]

Thanks for the bump Dre. :)

*pardon the excitement*

OMG.OMG.OMG.OMG.

I am going to see AiC perform in Arizona on Saturday!!! I just booked my flight, hotel and ticket. Holy shit, I am beyond excited. Not only do I get to see them perform, there is a huge possibility I will get backstage (being part of the Layne Staley Fund). :eek:

Plus, Tantric and the Deftones are also performing.

*collapses*

:D
I am officially green with envy.

take many pictures. :)

[rabbititus]

Thanks for the bump Dre. :)

*pardon the excitement*

OMG.OMG.OMG.OMG.

I am going to see AiC perform in Arizona on Saturday!!! I just booked my flight, hotel and ticket. Holy shit, I am beyond excited. Not only do I get to see them perform, there is a huge possibility I will get backstage (being part of the Layne Staley Fund). :eek:

Plus, Tantric and the Deftones are also performing.

*collapses*

:D



OMG you are so lucky! Congratulations! (:

[Temperance]

My flight leaves in exactly 10 hours. Woohoo!!! I will take as many pictures as I can, I promise! Mike, I realized I never said on MySpace where the show was, lol. I was still too excited! Well, I still am.
I just turn into such a moron when I'm around famous people. I have no clue what to say. Thankfully it won't be like a "meet and greet" setup, we'll just get to hang out backstage. I mean really, what the hell do you say to Jerry, Sean, and Mike?! Oh, and William as well, no idea what I'll say to him.

[Temperance]

I'm in AZ!!! And holy hell is it ridiculously hot here. :p The sun went downs hours ago and it's still in the 90's. I should be getting some sleep, but I'm just too damn excited!

[JiNxX]

I'm in AZ!!! And holy hell is it ridiculously hot here. :p The sun went downs hours ago and it's still in the 90's. I should be getting some sleep, but I'm just too damn excited!
LOL... two days later, no reports.

quit shirking off your reporting responsibilities to hang out with your rock star friends and tell us what's going on. :D

[Temperance]

Wow, was that crazy!!! I not only got to see AiC live in concert, but I got to see the entire show from onstage! We got a text from Susan Silver (their manager) asking us if we wanted to come up onstage. You know, because there was no way we wanted to do that! I was standing ten feet away from Sean. When they came offstage before the encore, they were standing 6 inches away from me. I just about died. And I will say, William Duvall held his own. He's no Layne Staley of course, but he did a good job. After the show we got to go backstage and meet with all the guys. I didn't get any pics backstage (we were requested to not take pics). I got to meet and talk to all the guys, plus their girlfriends (who were ridiculously hot and unfairly nice and friendly, lol). Mike was awesome, and his hair is even more impressive up close. Jerry was nice as well, but he was still frustrated over some technical difficulties with his guitar during the show. I barely got to talk to him. Sean was the best though. He came over and gave us all hugs, and thanked us for flying in to see them play. Then he told us stories about their song during the Seahawks game against the 49'ers. They were all amazing, and I think I'm still in shock over the whole thing.
In addition to all that awesomeness, I got to hang out with Tantric at their hotel. Those guys are crazy!!! I'm going to attach a few pics. These are from our view from stage left. My camera screwed me by jamming about 10 minutes after we got on stage, so I'm waiting for pics from the other girls.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/016.jpg
One of Jerry's extra guitars (and the guitar tech)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/023.jpg
Jerry and Sean

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/014.jpg
This has all the guys in it, although you can barely see Mike.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/019.jpg
Jerry and the crowd.

[rabbititus]

Wow, was that crazy!!! I not only got to see AiC live in concert, but I got to see the entire show from onstage! We got a text from Susan Silver (their manager) asking us if we wanted to come up onstage. You know, because there was no way we wanted to do that! I was standing ten feet away from Sean. When they came offstage before the encore, they were standing 6 inches away from me. I just about died. And I will say, William Duvall held his own. He's no Layne Staley of course, but he did a good job. After the show we got to go backstage and meet with all the guys. I didn't get any pics backstage (we were requested to not take pics). I got to meet and talk to all the guys, plus their girlfriends (who were ridiculously hot and unfairly nice and friendly, lol). Mike was awesome, and his hair is even more impressive up close. Jerry was nice as well, but he was still frustrated over some technical difficulties with his guitar during the show. I barely got to talk to him. Sean was the best though. He came over and gave us all hugs, and thanked us for flying in to see them play. Then he told us stories about their song during the Seahawks game against the 49'ers. They were all amazing, and I think I'm still in shock over the whole thing.
In addition to all that awesomeness, I got to hang out with Tantric at their hotel. Those guys are crazy!!! I'm going to attach a few pics. These are from our view from stage left. My camera screwed me by jamming about 10 minutes after we got on stage, so I'm waiting for pics from the other girls.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/016.jpg
One of Jerry's extra guitars (and the guitar tech)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/023.jpg
Jerry and Sean

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/014.jpg
This has all the guys in it, although you can barely see Mike.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/Temperance1212/Alice%20in%20Chains%202008/019.jpg
Jerry and the crowd.
OMG.

YOU!!!!!

OMFGGGG.

*dies*

[Aesahaettr]

holy fuck.

[Temperance]

Yeah, I'm still in shock over the whole thing. I'm still waiting on the other pics, but I swear I will post them as soon as I can!!!

[JiNxX]

OMG.

YOU!!!!!

OMFGGGG.

*dies*

holy fuck.
yeah, both of those echo in my head as well. :p

[Girl_Sailor]

has been thread about a has been band.

[Blueberry_Nightmare]

Sweet pictures. :D

has been thread about a has been band.

http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o434/blackeedammit/neutral.png

[Temperance]

has been thread about a has been band.

Seriously, there is no need for that. I realize it is your opinion, but I'm sorry you feel the need to bash this thread.

[Girl_Sailor]

I'm making a point.

[Temperance]

Apparently.

[wingedstrawberrygirl]

A crappy one.

[rabbititus]

http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o434/blackeedammit/neutral.png


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10chars.

[JiNxX]

I'm making a point.
what point is that?

[Monty_Python]

Never forget, Layne.

[Girl_Sailor]

what point is that?

this news is how old now? he isn't going to be resurrected, he's dead, he's gone, you've all made your piece, and now you're keeping this thread around to talk about the same old thing. And yet the people who post in this thread complain about other threads of basically the same nature.

[Temperance]

I think we all realize Layne is not going to be resurrected. I know for me, Layne Staley is still current because I'm a staff member of the Layne Staley Fund. I promote events and do fundraisers and Tribute shows to raise money for heroin recovery. So for me, he's not gone. Yes, I'm not stupid, I realize he's dead. But his memory lives on in the hopes of preventing others from the same hardships.
And I just saw AiC last weekend, so that bit of info is new too. The only threads I complained about were the "what time is it" thread and threads similar to that.

[Temperance]

Oh, you mean the report that only real mods are supposed to get? Sure go ahead and include it.

[Girl_Sailor]

real mod or not, it doesn't change the fact that you reported it so stop trying to divert attention.

[Temperance]

Who's trying to divert attention? Yes, I reported it, so what? I've reported other things as well, and no one really seemed to care about those. Why is this one such a big deal? He says it was a joke, well, I didn't see it that way when I reported it. Now I know it's a joke, fine. What do you want me to do, repent? Get over it.

EDIT: Speaking of diverting attention...being a "real mod" is an issue. It's an issue because a real mod wouldn't have passed around a confidential report. That is how the "report a post" feature is supposed to work, confidentially. And I'm not sure exactly, but how does this involve you?

[Monty_Python]

90% sure that this thread turned into a joke around the end of 2002, so I wouldn't worry about it, guys.

[JiNxX]

this news is how old now? he isn't going to be resurrected, he's dead, he's gone, you've all made your piece, and now you're keeping this thread around to talk about the same old thing. And yet the people who post in this thread complain about other threads of basically the same nature.
we keep the thread around to talk about Alice In Chains news -- yeah, because they do still perform -- as well as just for a place for us to talk.

I don't complain about other threads. I could give two shits about how people want to spend their time on this board. I wish everyone else felt the same.

[Liquorice]

I think we all realize Layne is not going to be resurrected. I know for me, Layne Staley is still current because I'm a staff member of the Layne Staley Fund. I promote events and do fundraisers and Tribute shows to raise money for heroin recovery. So for me, he's not gone. Yes, I'm not stupid, I realize he's dead. But his memory lives on in the hopes of preventing others from the same hardships.
And I just saw AiC last weekend, so that bit of info is new too. The only threads I complained about were the "what time is it" thread and threads similar to that.
Sounds like you are doing some good work. Thats awesome. :)

I like and appreciate AiC's music. I just haven't posted in here before cos I really don't have anything to contribute. Other than I like the music. *shrugs*

But I saw this post and just wanted to say good on you for what you are doing. Its bloody hard coming off drugs and ppl need all the support they can get while doing it.





I don't complain about other threads. I could give two shits about how people want to spend their time on this board. I wish everyone else felt the same.
Amen to that Mike. Most ppl on here feel this way too.

[Girl_Sailor]

I don't see how one band warrants an entire thread dedicated to them, especially one that really wasn't that pioneering, who's lead singer died of an overdose like a loser junkie. He put it on himself, no one made him do drugs.

[Temperance]

I don't see how one band warrants an entire thread dedicated to them, especially one that really wasn't that pioneering, who's lead singer died of an overdose like a loser junkie. He put it on himself, no one made him do drugs.

Out of curiousity, how old are you? I'm only asking because a lot of people on this board were/are too young to have been into AiC when they first came up out of Seattle. And yes, they were pioneering.
Have you ever had problems with drugs? If not, you have no idea what it's like to struggle with them. Of course no one made him do the drugs, that was his choice. I hate that people stereotype others with drug addictions. Yes, there are drug addicts who do horrible things, but there are those that struggle everyday to pull themselves out of it. He was so much more than a "loser junkie." Have a heart for a second and try to see past the surface.

[Temperance]

Sounds like you are doing some good work. Thats awesome. :)

I like and appreciate AiC's music. I just haven't posted in here before cos I really don't have anything to contribute. Other than I like the music. *shrugs*

But I saw this post and just wanted to say good on you for what you are doing. Its bloody hard coming off drugs and ppl need all the support they can get while doing it.


Thank you so much. :)

[Girl_Sailor]

Out of curiousity, how old are you? I'm only asking because a lot of people on this board were/are too young to have been into AiC when they first came up out of Seattle. And yes, they were pioneering.
Have you ever had problems with drugs? If not, you have no idea what it's like to struggle with them. Of course no one made him do the drugs, that was his choice. I hate that people stereotype others with drug addictions. Yes, there are drug addicts who do horrible things, but there are those that struggle everyday to pull themselves out of it. He was so much more than a "loser junkie." Have a heart for a second and try to see past the surface.

Tell me what have they done that was so remarkable, so great, so different, and unique from other musicians that it had a lasting impact and change on the industry and music? They were a band, they had a few hits, and people enjoyed them. That's all.

Why would I have problems with drugs when I'm not stupid enough to try them? I don't want to struggle, so I don't do them. Plain and simple. I do not have sympathy for people who make their own problems for themselves.

[36_crazyfists]

how on earth were alice in chains pioneering?

[Kimmerly]

I don't know if any of you realize, but this thread wasn't brought back as a tribute to AiC or Layne.

Edit: It might double as a tribute... but that wasn't why it was brought back. I don't think. I'll have to ask Widge. IT'S TOO EARLY IN THE MORNING TO BE AWAKE.

[Squishy_Ho]

Why would I have problems with drugs when I'm not stupid enough to try them? I don't want to struggle, so I don't do them. Plain and simple. I do not have sympathy for people who make their own problems for themselves.

stupidity is barely a factor for taking drugs. most people do them because there's something else behind it, not because they're idiots nor because it's cool. you usually fall into that pattern because you need to evade from something and it's way too much to bare while sober.

[Temperance]

Thanks Dre. :)

Since no one answered, I'll ask again. How old are you? It does matter, because when AiC broke out in Seattle (before Nirvana) it was a huge musical shift. Sure, AiC doesn't look pioneering now. I'll even admit to that, they haven't released a new album since 1993 (aside from the Unplugged album, but that wasn't new material). Obviously this argument is never going to go anywhere. I'm not going to change you're mind, and you certainly aren't going to change mine. You've made your point, I've made mine. I would like nothing more than for this thread to be a place where the people who do have an interest in Layne and AiC can post about it.

[Squishy_Ho]

you're welcome =) it's a pretty touchy subject, and since i'm gonna be doing a junkie in a play, i'm kind of pretty much interested and got informed and stuff so.

[Girl_Sailor]

stupidity is barely a factor for taking drugs. most people do them because there's something else behind it, not because they're idiots nor because it's cool. you usually fall into that pattern because you need to evade from something and it's way too much to bare while sober.

Yeah? well I've had a lot of horrible things to deal with, and that's just it, I don't run away from them, I deal with them, instead of injecting something into myself. No sympathy for escapism.

I'm 22. my age doesn't matter, I was well aware of the music at that time period.

I'd like nothing more than for this thread to disappear since what is said here could just as likely be stated in the SWOYM. If anything the threads kind of fanatic in a sense considering, its just a guy in a band, its just as bad as the Mike Shinoda thread in the other forum.

[110]

I'm just posting here because I want to see Kimmerly's dragon baby things grow bigger.

[Squishy_Ho]

Yeah? well I've had a lot of horrible things to deal with, and that's just it, I don't run away from them, I deal with them, instead of injecting something into myself. No sympathy for escapism.

I'd like nothing more than for this thread to disappear since what is said here could just as likely be stated in the SWOYM. If anything the threads kind of fanatic in a sense considering, its just a guy in a band, its just as bad as the Mike Shinoda thread in the other forum.

not everyone has the same way to react to things. and it's not that easy to face whatever you're going through. some get smashed, some get high, some kill or mutilate themselves, and some others like yourself just deal with them everyday. but consider the fact that it's not cause you're capable of doing it that everybody can. and it's not because some fall into drugs that they're ignorant or idiots.

since you keep complaining about how this thread doesn't belong here, name threads, except SWOYM, that do. because the way you speak, it seems that not a thread in this forum should be existing right now. i'm not part of the people that complain about useless threads so don't give me that argument. i believe some are stupid, including threads i post in, but why the fuck should anyone care? if the thread keeps getting recreated, it's cause there's people posting in them, and that what makes the community around here: people. so just leave them be. and post in whatever thread you may like, create whatever thread you may like, and it'll be up to the mods and admins to judge their utility.

[Girl_Sailor]

I'm not either, but this thread is an eye sore, its such an old fucking topic, just get over it already, seriously.

[Squishy_Ho]

perhaps the title is old, but now it has a totally different meaning. it's there to show AiC to people. that's how i discovered the band, personnally.

[Girl_Sailor]

my god, as though they were worth showing to people! they had their hay day its not coming back.

please, then it should be in the movement forum if that's its purpose and not the barracks nay?

[Squishy_Ho]

then it's the mods job to put it there. they judged the thread worthy of the barracks. if you believe otherwise, report the thread. that's it.

[Kimmerly]

I'm just posting here because I want to see Kimmerly's dragon baby things grow bigger.

LMFAO. Remember to click on them! XD A few more days and they'll be adults, and then I can get more eggs. :D

[JiNxX]

Jacky, stop trolling. seriously.

go back to doing whatever it is you do here.

[Monty_Python]

I'm not either, but this thread is an eye sore, its such an old fucking topic, just get over it already, seriously.

Do you realize that the only reason this thread is around is to commemorate the OLD Layne Staley thread, which lasted for more than 5 years because people kept bumping it as a joke? Trust me, Widge really doesn't care about respecting Layne Staley's memory. Why the hell would anyone create a thread about the death of someone seven years ago and post it like it was news?

THIS THREAD IS A JOKE.

[Temperance]

I get that some people take this thread as a joke. I was around for the original thread, so I know this was made to commemorate that. And for a long time that thread was kept alive with current posts, not just someone bumping it (although there were people who did that too). However, I (and a couple other people) like that we can discuss Layne, and the band, in this thread. I don't get why people are so annoyed by it. If it bothers you that much, just ignore it.

Aside from that...
Mike, can you give me any suggestions for bands that could play next years Tribute? I'd like them to have some connection to AiC or Layne, similar to both Hurt and Tantric (they toured a little bit together, and also had a few manager/producer type people in common). Thanks for any help!

[JiNxX]

Do you realize that the only reason this thread is around is to commemorate the OLD Layne Staley thread, which lasted for more than 5 years because people kept bumping it as a joke? Trust me, Widge really doesn't care about respecting Layne Staley's memory. Why the hell would anyone create a thread about the death of someone seven years ago and post it like it was news?

THIS THREAD IS A JOKE.
I'm sorry sir, but me, Alison (Rotten Apple), and a couple other people kept the old thread up because we gave a damn that Layne was gone. I don't really know what happened after I stopped posting here back in '04, but it wasn't a joke to me, or to at least three or four other people.

Widge's reasons for creating the thread are immaterial to how I feel.

I get that some people take this thread as a joke. I was around for the original thread, so I know this was made to commemorate that. And for a long time that thread was kept alive with current posts, not just someone bumping it (although there were people who did that too). However, I (and a couple other people) like that we can discuss Layne, and the band, in this thread. I don't get why people are so annoyed by it. If it bothers you that much, just ignore it.

Aside from that...
Mike, can you give me any suggestions for bands that could play next years Tribute? I'd like them to have some connection to AiC or Layne, similar to both Hurt and Tantric (they toured a little bit together, and also had a few manager/producer type people in common). Thanks for any help!
Tiernan, it's just like Mick was saying. people here treat other people like shit because they can hide behind relative anonymity. besides, it's their RIGHT to rail against anything that bothers them, and goddammit, they won't be denied!

well... as little as I've cared for their music as of late, Staind did a song on their 14 Shades Of Grey album called "Layne".

what about AiC tribute bands? I don't know of any myself, but I'm sure they're out there...

[Temperance]

I'm sorry sir, but me, Alison (Rotten Apple), and a couple other people kept the old thread up because we gave a damn that Layne was gone. I don't really know what happened after I stopped posting here back in '04, but it wasn't a joke to me, or to at least three or four other people.

Widge's reasons for creating the thread are immaterial to how I feel.


Tiernan, it's just like Mick was saying. people here treat other people like shit because they can hide behind relative anonymity. besides, it's their RIGHT to rail against anything that bothers them, and goddammit, they won't be denied!

well... as little as I've cared for their music as of late, Staind did a song on their 14 Shades Of Grey album called "Layne".

what about AiC tribute bands? I don't know of any myself, but I'm sure they're out there...

Once again, thanks for agreeing with me Mike.

I have thought about Staind, and I love that song. Aaron Lewis is a member of the LSF, so I would hope he would do it. Even if he did his solo thing that would be pretty cool too. They always have a couple of local bands open up the show. Riverbend plays every year, and I know of a few pretty popular local bands. All of the bands that played this year did at least 2 AiC songs during their set (even Tantric and Hurt). Tantric did "Rain When I Die" and it was fabulous. I'm not sure about tribute bands, as I believe the appeal is seeing well known bands. They are who will raise the most money for the Fund. I would love if I could get Mike McCready to do something, but I have no idea what he's doing these days.

[JiNxX]

Once again, thanks for agreeing with me Mike.

I have thought about Staind, and I love that song. Aaron Lewis is a member of the LSF, so I would hope he would do it. Even if he did his solo thing that would be pretty cool too. They always have a couple of local bands open up the show. Riverbend plays every year, and I know of a few pretty popular local bands. All of the bands that played this year did at least 2 AiC songs during their set (even Tantric and Hurt). Tantric did "Rain When I Die" and it was fabulous. I'm not sure about tribute bands, as I believe the appeal is seeing well known bands. They are who will raise the most money for the Fund. I would love if I could get Mike McCready to do something, but I have no idea what he's doing these days.
you mean Mike McCready from Pearl Jam? he's still playing with them, as far as I know.

[Temperance]

you mean Mike McCready from Pearl Jam? he's still playing with them, as far as I know.
Yep, Mike McCready of Pearl Jam...and Mad Season.

[Squishy_Ho]

*pokes people in here, waves* how are you people?

[Temperance]

Dre! I'm doing fine, how are you?

[JiNxX]

Yep, Mike McCready of Pearl Jam...and Mad Season.
ooh... I forgot he was in Mad Season.

I'm a bad grunge fan LOL.

[Blueberry_Nightmare]

I'm a bad grunge fan LOL.

I've been told I'm a bad grunge fan because I like Candlebox.

[JiNxX]

I've been told I'm a bad grunge fan because I like Candlebox.
well then I must be double bad. I like every Candlebox song I've ever heard.

[Blueberry_Nightmare]

I always thought they were great. but they have a stigma attached to them apparently.


Or I just talk to douchebags who get pretentious about musical tastes...

[Squishy_Ho]

Dre! I'm doing fine, how are you?

fucking tired. should be doing work for later but i ain't. hurray for last minute work!

how're you and baby and family and stuff?

[Temperance]

fucking tired. should be doing work for later but i ain't. hurray for last minute work!

how're you and baby and family and stuff?

Baby and family and stuff are all great. Layne is getting too big of course, and Savannah just turned 8, yikes!

[Squishy_Ho]

lol you must think time goes by pretty fast =/ i feel that sometimes too. like i'm 19, going on 20, but i still feel like i'm 18 or something.

[Temperance]

I feel nowhere near my age, lol. It's probably because most of the people I hang out with are 5 years younger than me.

And to stay on topic with the thread, have you checked out any AiC stuff yet Dre?

[Squishy_Ho]

no. i don't have time to check anything. it's mid-semester for me right now and i'm late on my works.

[Temperance]

I'll have to send some stuff your way. I'll get to it once I get home. Actually, it will more likely be this weekend. Today and tomorrow are going to be insane at work.

[Squishy_Ho]

good luck with that =/ i'll probably check it this week-end too or next week

[JiNxX]

good luck with that =/ i'll probably check it this week-end too or next week
hey Dre, if nothing else, you can probably jump on youtube and look up AiC's music videos. and just listen to them while you post here or something.

[Squishy_Ho]

can you suggest stuff? cause i don't like just doing through random songs or whatever. so if i can have suggestions it'd help be get on there lol

[JiNxX]

can you suggest stuff? cause i don't like just doing through random songs or whatever. so if i can have suggestions it'd help be get on there lol
alright well, what kind of music are you into? heavier stuff? melodic stuff?

[Squishy_Ho]

i'm into a couple of bands:

1) Linkin Park
2) A Perfect Circle
3) Mindless Self Indulgence
4) Placebo
5) Panic! At The Disco
6) Your Favorite Enemies
7) Muse
8) 3 Mile Scream
9) System of a Down
10) The Offspring
11) The Most Serene Republic

to name a couple few

[JiNxX]

heh... well that's all over the map, no help there. :p

well why don't I start from the end and work backwards. AiC's last new album was the self-titled one. "Heaven Beside You" was the big single, try that one. then try "Grind" and "Again". those three songs are pretty much all different from each other. should help you get an idea of why it's hard to recommend songs haha.

[Squishy_Ho]

ok thanks =)

[Temperance]

heh... well that's all over the map, no help there. :p

well why don't I start from the end and work backwards. AiC's last new album was the self-titled one. "Heaven Beside You" was the big single, try that one. then try "Grind" and "Again". those three songs are pretty much all different from each other. should help you get an idea of why it's hard to recommend songs haha.

I can't even attempt to narrow it down to a few songs. I can get to about three, and then I start thinking about all the other great songs, lol. "Sludge Factory" is one of my favorites from that album, although I think I like the Unplugged version more. It just sounds more raw.

[Squishy_Ho]

*bumps this up* hullooooooooooooooooo

[JiNxX]

I can't even attempt to narrow it down to a few songs. I can get to about three, and then I start thinking about all the other great songs, lol. "Sludge Factory" is one of my favorites from that album, although I think I like the Unplugged version more. It just sounds more raw.
"Sludge Factory" is a great track, I could definitely make a case for that being my favorite track on the album. agreed on the Unplugged comparison. I feel the same about "Over Now".

[Temperance]

Very true about "Over Now." I usually miss it on the CD because my commute only takes me through "Frogs" lol. And after thinking about the album yesterday, it was the one I listened to on the way to work this morning. I must also add "God Am" to the list, as well as "Shame In You."

EDIT: Argh, I forgot about "Head Creeps."

No more time
Just one more time

So crazy, beat the strain
Too lazy, shake the gray
So, and she willed the drain
So let me be defamed
Your redundancy stains
Tired of infantile claims
Like puppets on their strings
Untangle you from me

Time to call the doggies off
Tired of the shadowin'
Slide me to the side again
Slapped in the face again

No more time
Just one more time

Your redundancy stains
Tired of infantile claims
Live puppets on a string
Untangle you from me

Chorus

One day my plane leaves
Some way my head creeps
Some day my head leads
Some way my head creeps

Empty room sets the scene
Pick at me slow, pain fiend
Suck me through barbed screen
Anger becomes our Queen

Tongue whipping forked black
How long until you crack
Surprised and set back
Lackey's loose talk for fact

Chorus

One day my plane leaves
Some way my head creeps
Some day my way leads
Some way my head creeps

So crazy feel the hate
Yeah, I've got years to wait
I know it's not too late
Lending clean hands to fate
Rise from the dirt I'm in
Hide in another's skin
Stick black dress doll with pin
Your mouth takes on my grin

[JiNxX]

Very true about "Over Now." I usually miss it on the CD because my commute only takes me through "Frogs" lol. And after thinking about the album yesterday, it was the one I listened to on the way to work this morning. I must also add "God Am" to the list, as well as "Shame In You."

EDIT: Argh, I forgot about "Head Creeps."
haha alright, fine, the whole CD is good. :p

[Squishy_Ho]

*bumps this up* i'm not the only not coming on here anymore it seems =/

[Temperance]

haha alright, fine, the whole CD is good. :p

Agreed. Dare I start talking about Dirt? :p

*bumps this up* i'm not the only not coming on here anymore it seems =/

I'm guilty too. I've been mostly lurking the last week or so. I've just been super busy.

[Squishy_Ho]

that sucks =/ i hope you'll be alright *hugs*

[Temperance]

Thanks Dre. Work is just crazy right now. Between being sick for a week, and having to be away from the hospital for two days for meetings, I am beyond behind. GRRRR.

[Temperance]

You know, one of these days I really need to post the complete discography of AiC...

[JiNxX]

You know, one of these days I really need to post the complete discography of AiC...
what, a list? in here? shit, I could do that.

maybe not tonight though. :p

[shattered_pieces]

are AiC going to release a new album with a new lead singer next year??
i'm sorry i'm waay behind but i just wondered..are they gonna keep the name Alice in Chains?
:/

[Liquorice]

are AiC going to release a new album with a new lead singer next year??
i'm sorry i'm waay behind but i just wondered..are they gonna keep the name Alice in Chains?
:/

Are they? That's cool, I mean look at AC/DC, when Bon Scott died they bought in Brian Johnson and still had huge success. The fans embraced Brian. I'm sure the same would happen with AiC.

[shattered_pieces]

Are they? That's cool, I mean look at AC/DC, when Bon Scott died they bought in Brian Johnson and still had huge success. The fans embraced Brian. I'm sure the same would happen with AiC.

it would be good to start playing again. but i don't know if i would miss Layne too much to listen to the songs.
i think they should keep going, just with a different name.

[Liquorice]

it would be good to start playing again. but i don't know if i would miss Layne too much to listen to the songs.
i think they should keep going, just with a different name.

I guess the band will have to have a think about how they want to persue things. I guess they'll do whatever makes them comfortable.

[JiNxX]

are AiC going to release a new album with a new lead singer next year??
i'm sorry i'm waay behind but i just wondered..are they gonna keep the name Alice in Chains?
:/
I think they were planning to do that, yes.

Are they? That's cool, I mean look at AC/DC, when Bon Scott died they bought in Brian Johnson and still had huge success. The fans embraced Brian. I'm sure the same would happen with AiC.
I'm torn. you are absolutely right about AC/DC, Lindy... and I can think of other bands that change lead singers and keep going... Drowning Pool is a great example, three albums with a different singer on each one. I just wonder if anyone is brave enough to step in and try to fill that void with AiC.

it would be good to start playing again. but i don't know if i would miss Layne too much to listen to the songs.
i think they should keep going, just with a different name.
I half-agree with you on that, but then I think, they're still going to play the old songs. and then maybe someone will be upset thinking that they should have left the legacy alone, etc.

still, it wouldn't be the first time that a band changed their name without abandoning their catalog. before Sevendust got big, they were called Crawlspace, and under that name they had a song on the soundtrack to one of the Mortal Kombat movies ("My Ruin", which appears on Sevendust's debut album).

by the way, hello, I'm Mike. :)

[shattered_pieces]

I think they were planning to do that, yes.

awesome.


I half-agree with you on that, but then I think, they're still going to play the old songs. and then maybe someone will be upset thinking that they should have left the legacy alone, etc.

still, it wouldn't be the first time that a band changed their name without abandoning their catalog. before Sevendust got big, they were called Crawlspace, and under that name they had a song on the soundtrack to one of the Mortal Kombat movies ("My Ruin", which appears on Sevendust's debut album).

by the way, hello, I'm Mike. :)

well, yeah..the old songs would be hard to hear with a new lead singer. that's what i was saying. but also it wouldn't be fair that they just give up the whole idea for that. it's a tough decision =P
hey..i'm Lulu :)

[JiNxX]

well, yeah..the old songs would be hard to hear with a new lead singer. that's what i was saying. but also it wouldn't be fair that they just give up the whole idea for that. it's a tough decision =P
hey..i'm Lulu :)
hi Lulu... always nice to meet someone else on this board who still cares :)

[shattered_pieces]

hi Lulu... always nice to meet someone else on this board who still cares :)

yep :)
hey i always wanted to know how old you are..if it's okay =P

[JiNxX]

yep :)
hey i always wanted to know how old you are..if it's okay =P
I'm 28. a bit old for this place, maybe, but not the oldest.

[Temperance]

I'm 28. a bit old for this place, maybe, but not the oldest.

Believe it or not, I'm actually not the oldest either! :eek: :p

[I_B_Long]

i think Lindy id the oldest one here i know. im 22.

[Liquorice]

Believe it or not, I'm actually not the oldest either! :eek: :p

And believe it or not, neither am I. :eek:

[Temperance]

are AiC going to release a new album with a new lead singer next year??
i'm sorry i'm waay behind but i just wondered..are they gonna keep the name Alice in Chains?
:/

Sheesh, I missed like 10 posts in this thread. How on earth did I do that?!

Okay, yes, they are releasing a new album. I believe sometime in January 2009. They are keeping the Alice in Chains name. They are moving forward with the singer they've been using for a while, William DuVall.
I'm torn about the singing change. No one will ever be able to replace Layne. However, I saw AiC perform in Arizona in September. William did a very good job with the older songs. His voice is nothing like Laynes, and he doesn't try to be, which in my opinion is good because he would fail miserably.
I think as long as they stick to the AiC harmonies, it will sound similar to the older stuff. Jerry will still be singing, so I hope it would retain some of the sound we all love.

[shattered_pieces]

Sheesh, I missed like 10 posts in this thread. How on earth did I do that?!

Okay, yes, they are releasing a new album. I believe sometime in January 2009. They are keeping the Alice in Chains name. They are moving forward with the singer they've been using for a while, William DuVall.
I'm torn about the singing change. No one will ever be able to replace Layne. However, I saw AiC perform in Arizona in September. William did a very good job with the older songs. His voice is nothing like Laynes, and he doesn't try to be, which in my opinion is good because he would fail miserably.
I think as long as they stick to the AiC harmonies, it will sound similar to the older stuff. Jerry will still be singing, so I hope it would retain some of the sound we all love.

thanks for the info :)
i miss Layne :\:(

[shattered_pieces]

I'm 28. a bit old for this place, maybe, but not the oldest.

nope, i once saw a 50 year old here..believe it or not :p

[JiNxX]

nope, i once saw a 50 year old here..believe it or not :p
I certainly don't believe it LOL... when was this?

[Squishy_Ho]

Thanks Dre. Work is just crazy right now. Between being sick for a week, and having to be away from the hospital for two days for meetings, I am beyond behind. GRRRR.

*hugs tight again* hopefully it's better **>.<