NEW ALBUM 09? New style? Or Old Style? Both?? *threads merged*

[MJLP88]

Chester has had an interview with Billboard Magazine and has been quoted as saying that whilst on tour this year they will be writing down ideas and songs for the new album! And also saying that its going to be a quick turnaround to get it out! Check out www.lpassociation.com

I really hope they can get it out quick! 2009?? who knows... Will be fantastic!

Do you think LP will follow in suit after MTM?

Or have a bit of both on the new album...old stlye, new style?

[Kleck]

That would be awesome! Four years was a long time to wait!! I would like a mix of both, but they could leave out some of the softer stuff, like Valentine's Day.

[Rob1]

It will more than likely be build upon Minutes To Midnight with probably fewer ballads and leaning more into hard rock, but a kind of "MTM-flavored hard rock", not the "Meteora Theory hard rock". Probably stuff sounding along the lines of "No Roads Left".


And in addition to that, some unexpected, "where did this come from?" songs.


Needless to say, a lot of people will hate it regardless. :p

[With_You]

My wish was to them go back to their old style, has i dislike MTM comparing with the other albums(still theres good mtm songs). But that will be hard...i mean...

But themh out of nowhere they actually did that and made a crazy video like the ones from HT? And chester appears again all "cool" with the yellow hair up and them comes mike also like how he was with the cool spike hair and them he starts teh rap rap rap raping!!!! Yeah!!!! Them theres some ninjas flying around, BOYAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now, seriously, i really wanted the album to be a Meteora style one or HT, but its hard. Or how about a Meteora+MTM? That would be nice. HAs they will stick withy the MTM style i guess, but if they added some HT or Meteora to it, it would be awesome.

[3Blin1k1]

Why would they do that after reestablishing themselves as a rock band and generating a new, successful sound? Makes no sense. This is good news, I really hope it will contain more hard-rock and heavy songs in the style of No Roads Left, Given Up, NMS, and WID. That'd be sweet.

[comfortzone]

Great news :)

I'm open for everything

[tpbarbosa]

I wanted it was the old awesome style
But I doubt ... LP will try to mix both styles? Who knows???
Actually I guess like rob1 said it will follow NRL'S line
But it's just my opinion

[CPT_BJ]

Theres nothing wrong with the soft stuff but id like to hear some more thrashy stuff like Faint.

[MJLP88]

yer i agree with 3Blin1k1...i think thye'll focus more on the rock aspect on the next album...well i hope so anyway

[CPT_BJ]

Well i don't care that much now what the content is just that they realise another maybe a new live album.

[Ultra_Violet_Kosh]

I think it will almost certainly build upon Minutes To Midnight, which in my opinion is a good direction. With a bit more development upon that style, I think they can create something twice as good as M2M. :)
I personally really like the softer songs on Minutes to Midnight over the harder ones, I think they are the stronger songs on the album despite their calmer tone. Also nicer to sing along to. hah.

[LinkinPete]

wow, kind of shocking to hear at first.. since LP is known for really not hurrying with albums;) .. I´m sure the next wont come out for a while still, though.

Well, this was expected, since they took a lil´ vacation after Meteora touring and had to take time to find new ways to write.

but it´s like.. the MTM songs still sound so new:p well, still got some time..

What comes to the "old style, new style".. For 100% there´s no turning back to "the old style" (even though I´m not so eager to use these names), since they changed everything..

but is it a M2M part 2?? I don´t think so, since LP is also known for their willingless to change.. and since M2M is first of really versatile album and all, it´s hard to say.. and if they start writing on the road and all, I´m sure the songs will vary.. well, like they did before.. but note, that M2M was basically written during the studio/mansion time, so this is another new way to write.. plus if they continue it in a studio.. and what kind of studio and with who as a producer?? I´d be cool if Mike or all of them would take the producing duties.. that´d be again different thing..I mean he was already producing M2M..

oh, what a long post.. but can´t wait, all I know it´s going to be unbelievably awesome, they´re on fire!:cool:

[Ultra_Violet_Kosh]

mhm they definatly are on fire, and it doesnt seem to be going out any time soon. =]

[heyosnow]

i dont know, just lp realy know what they wanted

[Moridin]

Chester has had an interview with Billboard Magazine and has been quoted as saying that whilst on tour this year they will be writing down ideas and songs for the new album! And also saying that its going to be a quick turnaround to get it out! Check out www.lpassociation.com

I really hope they can get it out quick! 2009?? who knows... Will be fantastic!

Do you think LP will follow in suit after MTM?

Or have a bit of both on the new album...old stlye, new style?

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003707157
Chaz said that he doesn't know what it'll turn out like.

They'll probably build on MTM to some extent. I think it will be more focussed then MTM though.

Maybe an example of the heavier stuff they're writing?:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=4xjiwtP9kCo&feature=user
they been playing that heavy doodle after Points of Authority lately.

I say don't expect them to start recording until late '09, since Chaz has DBS to release and tour then maybe a short break.

[AriesLP]

I don't care about the style.I mean - with old and with new style they are LP, and nobody can be like them,nobody can repeat their unique style.You always can understand when listening them.Love all LP albums,Minutes to Midnight was one big suprise for me,love this album and love LP.That's only that I know.

[Mondreus_X]

Thier probably gonna do a harder version of mtm. I also hope thiers some more rapping but in a whole different style not like rap scream rap scream huge scream scream. :P

[Naija]

That's good news! Means I won't have to wait too long to see them live again. I like all LP's albums, it took me awhile to get into M2M but I grew to love the album.

[RaTeD]

To anyone wanting linkin park to go back to their "old style", do the following:

Grab your hybrid theory and meteora cd's and some whiteout, proced to white out the "hybrid theory" and "meteora" on the cd's. Now this is the fun part: simply write over what ever crazy and wacky album name you can think of !

THERE YOU GO. LP BACK TO OLD STYLE.

now lets all hope linkin park builds on this new direction and continues to be C-R-E-A-T-I-V-E and not limit them selves to their "old style" or "new style" or whatever crap you want to think of.

[minuteman]

Thier probably gonna do a harder version of mtm. I also hope thiers some more rapping but in a whole different style not like rap scream rap scream huge scream scream. :Pdude, fix your sig up, it's way too big!

and, seriously -- another thread on the fourth album? :eek: this is getting ridiculous.

[Helios_LP]

The Album Will Be Amazing I know It !!! :)

[Rade]

i'm still hoping for a free-jazz album :(

[LinkinPete]

Maybe an example of the heavier stuff they're writing?:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=4xjiwtP9kCo&feature=user
they been playing that heavy doodle after Points of Authority lately.

I say don't expect them to start recording until late '09, since Chaz has DBS to release and tour then maybe a short break.

damn, that riff is banging.. and Chester growls unbelievably low on that one..

[MJLP88]

that's another point really.........I'd say chester has got the best scream out there, his vocal range is just amazing in my books! Whats everyones opinion?

[Rob1]

I hope that riff turns into a full song and not just one of those A.06 mini-instrumentals that gets lost and is never built upon in subsequent albums.

[Moridin]

now lets all hope linkin park builds on this new direction and continues to be C-R-E-A-T-I-V-E and not limit them selves to their "old style" or "new style" or whatever crap you want to think of.

ditto

that's another point really.........I'd say chester has got the best scream out there, his vocal range is just amazing in my books! Whats everyones opinion?

Definitely one of the best vocalists out there. Fantastic range.

I hope that riff turns into a full song and not just one of those A.06 mini-instrumentals that gets lost and is never built upon in subsequent albums.

ditto once again.

[XRaider]

Hmm, do you think that Little Boxes (full song) will be on the new album as bonus track or on LPU 8?

[Rob1]

Hmm, do you think that Little Boxes (full song) will be on the new album as bonus track or on LPU 8?

I hope not.

[TS_AlLBANIA_ForgotteN]

I hope not.
That's like a song to put babies in sleep. So really not...

[California_Castaway]

I'm guessing a bit of a blend, maybe to satisfy fans while we wait for album #5 since there'll be a waiting period in it so Dead By Sunrise can finally be released.

[_FaiNt_]

actually valentine's day is a very gd song, it reaches out to the ppl who aren't into like heavy rock like most of the users on this board. I loved MTM, pretty much all of the songs, but what I want out of the next one... is for it to at least make a lil bit of sense. not just like write w'e.

[California_Castaway]

actually valentine's day is a very gd song, it reaches out to the ppl who aren't into like heavy rock like most of the users on this board. I loved MTM, pretty much all of the songs, but what I want out of the next one... is for it to at least make a lil bit of sense. not just like write w'e.
I like heavy rock.
And still, Valentines Day is in my top 3 for MtM

[Umlauts]

I'm guessing a bit of a blend, maybe to satisfy fans while we wait for album #5 since there'll be a waiting period in it so Dead By Sunrise can finally be released.

I'll bet DBS will be released in September or October, since it will probably be finished during LP's very long spring break and released after summer touring.

Chester will only consider touring if DBS does really well. If this happens then the new album will definitly be delayed until 2010 maybe 2011.

[_FaiNt_]

I like heavy rock.
And still, Valentines Day is in my top 3 for MtM
i was generalizing, sry

but it is a good song

[California_Castaway]

I'll bet DBS will be released in September or October, since it will probably be finished during LP's very long spring break and released after summer touring.

Chester will only consider touring if DBS does really well. If this happens then the new album will definitly be delayed until 2010 maybe 2011.
I thought that DBS got delayed until '09

[Moridin]

I thought that DBS got delayed until '09

Theres no official release date for DBS, but it'll have to wait 'till LP finnish touring. Whether thats after the summer or early next year we'll just have to wait and see what LPs schedule.
But we do know Chaz plans to work on it during the next tour break.

[ditom17]

I prefer old style.
Hybrid Theory and Meteora were great.MtM is their whorst album (but I like it).
I hope they will continue Meteora and HB style.

[Kimberlys]

I prefer old style.
Hybrid Theory and Meteora were great.MtM is their whorst album (but I like it).
I hope they will continue Meteora and HB style.

the band members are gettiong old (still young)
its like, your style changes over time :P
you dont wear the same as you did for 5 years ago:P

but i hope for both :]

[With_You]

the band members are gettiong old (still young)
its like, your style changes over time :P
you dont wear the same as you did for 5 years ago:P

but i hope for both :]

My wish was to them go back to their old style, has i dislike MTM comparing with the other albums(still theres good mtm songs). But that will be hard...i mean...

But themh out of nowhere they actually did that and made a crazy video like the ones from HT? And chester appears again all "cool" with the yellow hair up and them comes mike also like how he was with the cool spike hair and them he starts teh rap rap rap raping!!!! Yeah!!!! Them theres some ninjas flying around, BOYAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


what i said earlier hehe

[bruceleefan]

idk, i think they should lean towards their older style. i mean mtm, imo, turned them into an average rock band. their old style is what seperated them from the crowd.

[ditom17]

the band members are gettiong old (still young)
its like, your style changes over time :P
you dont wear the same as you did for 5 years ago:P

but i hope for both :]

You're right.
And i hope both too.

[mr_fede]

i just hope there will be more mike rap and more joe too...and less ballads...meteora II please? lol

[Rob1]

meteora II please? lol

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo

[Moridin]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo

Ahahahahahahahahaha!


Darth Vader springs to mind:D

[Rob1]

Darth Vader springs to mind:D

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/54/DONOTWANT_Vader.jpg

[TS_AlLBANIA_ForgotteN]

Old times never coming back again...get used with it.

[RaTeD]

so who's up for this new rule ?

Who ever whines about wanting recycled HT/Meteora new album gets banned on the spot.

?!!?!?!

(im kidding obviously)

[shattered_pieces]

lol.. how about all whiners are banned!
but do you think with the new album whatever the style is they'll bring back the BLACK boards??

[RaTeD]

we wont be "bringing back" anything.

[Moridin]

lol.. how about all whiners are banned!
but do you think with the new album whatever the style is they'll bring back the BLACK boards??

heheh, I like the contrast between the LPUMB's "dark, dank, secret underground" feel and this MBs day-bright "open to the public above-ground" feel.:D

But the art work for the albums usually determines the general look of the boards.

[RaTeD]

every new version (album) of the board has its own unique design. Sparkart isn't going to recycle the same website/msg board just like linkin park isnt going to recycle the same two albums (HT and meteroa)

[Tw1zD_eL3mEn7]

every new version (album) of the board has its own unique design. Sparkart isn't going to recycle the same website/msg board just like linkin park isnt going to recycle the same two albums (HT and meteroa)

Lol, you make no sense... you stated Linkin park isn't going to recycle the same album than immediately contradict yourself and say 'same two albums', when they already have recycled albums like you stated above, HT and Meteroa.... i giggled.

[RaTeD]

i was putting HT/meteora in one category since they are so similair.

[Tw1zD_eL3mEn7]

i was putting HT/meteora in one category since they are so similair.

Okay, with that logic, what if linkin park were to come out with an album that was identical to Minutes to Midnight or for that matter another Hybrid Theory. Instead of being labeled 'recycled' why not just consider or put that in the same category as one another?

[TS_AlLBANIA_ForgotteN]

we wont be "bringing back" anything.
LP won't bring back anything...the old fuckin style/sound it's gone...tho it was better ,the band has evolved.Tho the songs and albums (HT&Meteora) are still there and u can always enjoy them.SO better do this instead of whinning cuz It won't help.Believe me.

[DopeDollar]

im hoping it stays how they always have done it...some hard songs...and some soft

[RaTeD]

Okay, with that logic, what if linkin park were to come out with an album that was identical to Minutes to Midnight or for that matter another Hybrid Theory. Instead of being labeled 'recycled' why not just consider or put that in the same category as one another?


...

i want to see linkin park evolving their music, be creative, experiment, try new things.

i dont want to see another HT or meteora or minutes to midnight.

I want to see progression.

From HT to meteora we did not see that. from meteora to minutes to midnight we did. i hope that trend continues to their next album.

[shattered_pieces]

god i wasn't saying i want another HT/meteora i just said i wanted another design!! some more easy colors to the eye..but appearently everything's understood wrong in here.

[Rob1]

god i wasn't saying i want another HT/meteora i just said i wanted another design!! some more easy colors to the eye..but appearently everything's understood wrong in here.

No, they were talking to Tw1zD_eL3mEn7, he was twisting words around and stuff. You're fine.

[shattered_pieces]

aww .. thnx for clearing it out :) i thought because RaTeD said : we're not "bringing back" anything he got me wrong..

[Rob1]

aww .. thnx for clearing it out :) i thought because RaTeD said : we're not "bringing back" anything he got me wrong..

Well that part was to you, but not the rest of it.

[shattered_pieces]

ok but just to make it more clear i don't want anything back.
just better stuff :)

[RaTeD]

what rob said.

[Mattz]

Matrix LP > Hybrid Theory LP > Meteora LP > Minutes to Midnight LP

[AmyLynette_91]

wahahahaha i hope its both! cooler....

[Martuzza]

I'll love every style they'll decide to use anyway. I like their change in minutes to midnight but I won't regret if they would come back to HT sound ;)

[TheIcon]

Why would they do that after reestablishing themselves as a rock band and generating a new, successful sound? Makes no sense. This is good news, I really hope it will contain more hard-rock and heavy songs in the style of No Roads Left, Given Up, NMS, and WID. That'd be sweet.

I hardly consider there sound new. To me MTM sounds like 900 other albums out there now. New sound for them. I can see that.

[Rob1]

I hardly consider there sound new. To me MTM sounds like 900 other albums out there now. New sound for them. I can see that.

Can you give some examples of those 900 albums? People have been saying MTM sounds like every other band out there, but I don't see it.

[WookieBastard]

i agree with Thelcon too. And like i've said before in the million other threads i posted, it's not that the album sounds like other albums, but the songs sound like other band's songs.

[ShadowerLiltani]

Chester has had an interview with Billboard Magazine and has been quoted as saying that whilst on tour this year they will be writing down ideas and songs for the new album! And also saying that its going to be a quick turnaround to get it out! Check out www.lpassociation.com

I really hope they can get it out quick! 2009?? who knows... Will be fantastic!

Do you think LP will follow in suit after MTM?

Or have a bit of both on the new album...old stlye, new style?

I don't know what their plans are. But, they are Linkin Park, and they will do with their album whatever they think will sound right to them, and us.

[Danielalien]

i agree with Thelcon too. And like i've said before in the million other threads i posted, it's not that the album sounds like other albums, but the songs sound like other band's songs.

Shadow Of The Day is a spitting image of the Joshua Tree -era of U2

[3Blin1k1]

The only song that sounds like another band is SOTD, like you said. I seriously think they copped off of With or Without You in that song. The overall sound, vocals...just wow.

[bruceleefan]

obviously the new stuff isnt selling like their older stuff, cuz it's just like every other rock cd out there. like i said before linkin park is linkin park for a reason, they had their own style but lost it in MTM. and dont blame the bad sales to illegal downloading. that's been going on since they've been together.

[CHfan88]

Don't really think they'll revert to their old style because they said themselves that they "exhausted" that sound and why would they go back to their old style after working 15 months on working on a new style/MTM style? don't tell me their gonna throw out all that work... So i guess for the next album it's gonna be based of the MTM style, but more rock oriented but like when MTM came out, you never whst their gonna do...

[ms_shock]

I think it will be like MTM, but with some new things....

[bunny_bennoda2508]

Ask them directly !!!
Let's pick up the phone !!! :D :D :D

[bunny_bennoda2508]

old is good. new is good.mix is good. another different is good .But I think they may be not repeat themself and the new album may not come so soon as people expected :p

[mratrak]

I think it would be cool if the next album will have the old style,and the new style too.Both are amazing!!!

[Plaz]

I don't mind what road they take for the new album, I love all of their music. But to make a suggestion I think Mike should be included more in the vocals along with Chester again because they are a really great duo.

[MarathonMan]

I really don't care how it's going to sound like as long as there's more rap and Hip Hop in it.

[Wello]

You know what would be scary? If they decided to try another new direction and it ended up sounding freakishly like disco. Or something and it was completely accidental. It'd also be creepy if Mr. Hahn instead of scratching since there has been less and less of that just started smashing records on the floor...
....
i wonder if that has a cool sound...? lol. he should do it in one of their music videos that'd be awesome. xD

I just hope they don't go over the edge trying to expand their horizons and end up doing something awkwardly strange. Well...i guess that'd be okay if they really felt like doing that...i guess... D:

[ms_shock]

lol!!!! LP-disco...... ahhhahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!

[LPDOM2]

it be cool if lp tried funk, and phoenix tried some slap bass

[ThunderStrike]

I'd like to see Phoenix perform a solo.......And Chaz and Mike, get back to singing together!!!!!

[tristyn]

1. more joe
2. mike and ches on the same record
3. at least one song in the old style, just for fun =)

[ms_shock]

Many people want to hear Mike and Chaz together... So... I hpe Mike read it and...... *prays*

[LinkinPete]

1. more joe
2. mike and ches on the same record
3. at least one song in the old style, just for fun =)

1. You mean more scratching? That´d mean "older" style or more electronica. Might come. I´m not gonna start with "he IS on the album" thingy.. well, he may do other stuff again or smthng.. beats etc. not so.. "noticeable" maby as straight scratching or sounds such as Crawling intro.

2. You mean singing/rapping? Sure you do, cause Mike plays guitar in almost every song and sings lots harmonies also. So they ARE on the record. Just again a little differently, as Joe, but Mike raps too so.. If you mean that you could as well ask Mike and Phoenix on the same record:D well, Phoenix never rapped on LP album but you´ll get the idea. Mike is not "just" an MC.

3. "No, no turning back now" :cool: (again, what is it etc..)

haha, felt like writing something for real.

[LinkinPete]

it be cool if lp tried funk, and phoenix tried some slap bass

Tasty Snax comes to mind :rolleyes:

[tristyn]

1. You mean more scratching? That´d mean "older" style or more electronica. Might come. I´m not gonna start with "he IS on the album" thingy.. well, he may do other stuff again or smthng.. beats etc. not so.. "noticeable" maby as straight scratching or sounds such as Crawling intro.

2. You mean singing/rapping? Sure you do, cause Mike plays guitar in almost every song and sings lots harmonies also. So they ARE on the record. Just again a little differently, as Joe, but Mike raps too so.. If you mean that you could as well ask Mike and Phoenix on the same record:D well, Phoenix never rapped on LP album but you´ll get the idea. Mike is not "just" an MC.

3. "No, no turning back now" :cool: (again, what is it etc..)

haha, felt like writing something for real.

1. i know he's on the album. i didn't say "some joe" i said "more joe" and they should give him more to do when they're playing live.

2. no not necessarily singing/rapping... it just seemed to me like they were kinda separate in MTM; that's just the feeling i get listening to the album. i'd like to see both their vocals together on a track equally. this isn't the case for most of the songs on mtm.

3. i was just curious to see that, if they did chose to do something in their old style, what it would sound like, after all the experimenting they said they did.

lol give me a little slack here dude... it's a post on a forum written by a little kid with a C in english, not a submission for an essay contest.

they know what i mean. i just chose not to use as many words as you did, but if you can get the jist of it, i'm sure other people can too.

[LinkinPete]

lol give me a little slack here dude... it's a post on a forum written by a little kid with a C in english, not a submission for an essay contest.

they know what i mean. i just chose not to use as many words as you did, but if you can get the jist of it, i'm sure other people can too.

Haha, ok ok, I didn´t mean mine as an angry post. Just felt like writing, I haven´t posted long posts in a long time:D

No hard feelings:cool:

Peace

[tristyn]

Haha, ok ok, I didn´t mean mine as an angry post. Just felt like writing, I haven´t posted long posts in a long time:D

No hard feelings:cool:

Peace

it's cool

it's all good =)

lolz if that counts as a long post, most of mine are long posts

hahaha

[LinkinPete]

it's cool

it's all good =)

lolz if that counts as a long post, most of mine are long posts

hahaha

Well, it´s longer than the "rolfmao omg I luuv Chester!" posts. No offence to anyone posting them... lol:D
I like to have a decent conversations here once in a while, with longer posts than a few words. And decent topics. Like this one maby..

But omg I love Chester too!:cool:

[tristyn]

Well, it´s longer than the "rolfmao omg I luuv Chester!" posts. No offence to anyone posting them... lol:D
I like to have a decent conversations here once in a while, with longer posts than a few words. And decent topics. Like this one maby..

But omg I love Chester too!:cool:

yeah i know... or that one person... who just posts "happy day" on every thread and leaves.

hahahah

well linkin park... it's always interesting. like, you know they have talent, but it's like, now, you don't really know what they're gunna do next you know?

and yeah. chester. is. so. cool. less than three.

[LinkinPete]

yeah i know... or that one person... who just posts "happy day" on every thread and leaves.

hahahah

well linkin park... it's always interesting. like, you know they have talent, but it's like, now, you don't really know what they're gunna do next you know?

and yeah. chester. is. so. cool. less than three.

Yeah, or the ass- guy. Sad.

Yes, they keep changing. I´m glad there are also people talking more about their music than hairstyle or whatever.:cool: It can give someone who doesn´t know the band and comes here a lil.. boybandish feel you know. lol. Less than four.

[crules]

i think they should have a mix. i know a lot of people who say it sucked but i really enjoyed it. but i did like meteora the best but the only thing disappointing about MTM was the lack of rapping. i will be completely fine with the slower pace if they put a lot more rapping in there music. but i really do hope they do more old school than new school

[ThunderStrike]

I'd love to have a remix album of Meteora......Imagine a Breaking the Habit mix....

[mratrak]

I'd love to have a remix album of Meteora......Imagine a Breaking the Habit mix....
Yeah!!!It would be cool:D

[1978JR]

I like the idea of an album that mixes the old and new styles. As we know LP have received a lot of criticism for the new style but by now people should be used to it. And anyway there are some brill songs on MTM so they can do both no matter what anyone says. But yeah a cross between Meteora and MTM would suit me.

[xiaopangmd]

I love the Old Style like Faint,a place for my head or something alse.
But the new style is great too.
It's quite difficult to choose one.
Getting the new album is the most important.Having new songs to listen is the most important.

[DEATH_NOTE]

i want mtm-style screaming like NMS and GU. no more of that pop crap.

[Angels_Black_Rose]

A mix would be nice. I still like them all though.

[Highway2Hell]

they said it would be like mtm.

[3Blin1k1]

A mix would be nice. I still like them all though.

Jesus your sig is gynormous. Cut back a bit, please? ;)

....BTW, this is soo confusing. I think there's like 30 people on here besides me with essentially the same sig. Lol...

i want mtm-style screaming like NMS and GU. no more of that pop crap.
What's wrong with that pop-crap? Is it because it isn't hard enough for you? NMS, Given Up and What I've Done are the best songs on the album (IMO), but I think the softer ones are good, too. I guess it's just personal preference. Although I agree that the next album should be predominantly harder songs in that style (one or two ballads won't hurt...)

[Rock_n_Dray]

I want more songs like No Roads Left on the next album :) !!

[Highway2Hell]

yeah me too. id like to see more of mike singing = )

[3Blin1k1]

More No Roads Left/In Pieces/Given Up/No More Sorrow-ish songs with a light touch of What I've Done. Maybe throw some QWERTY in there, too

[Rock_n_Dray]

Maybe it would be interesting to hear a duo between Chester and Mike, both singing..like; no scream and no rap.. :rolleyes:

[ms_shock]

Maybe it would be interesting to hear a duo between Chester and Mike, both singing..like; no scream and no rap.. :rolleyes:
noooo... it will be like pop-album!!!!

[tristyn]

Maybe it would be interesting to hear a duo between Chester and Mike, both singing..like; no scream and no rap.. :rolleyes:

lol if you want, you can hear it in multiple live shows =)

sounds awesome, btw

they should totally do something like that in studio.

[Rock_n_Dray]

noooo... it will be like pop-album!!!!

Woo ! I didn't say that the whole album should be that way! XD Only one song, just to hear how it could sound like.. :rolleyes:

[MarathonMan]

I...need...Hip Hop. And also,if the album is anything like MTM, they're going to start losing some fans (and possibly gaining some). They need to go back to hip hop/rock and if they do Mike HAS to shave of te mustache and leave the little beard.

[3Blin1k1]

How will they lose fans? A lot of old fans have stayed loyal and they've made tons of new ones. The album did really well in terms of sales and perception. The only people that didn't like the album were people who hate LP in general as well as stubborn fans who get mad if their favorite band doesn't repeat the same thing over and over.

I agree, more rap and scratching would be cool, but I fail to see why they would lose more fans than they already have...

[Rock_n_Dray]

Real fans'll always stay. :cool: A great band don't do only one kind of music.. No; a great band can play any kind of music, and it'll always be good.;)

[hybridkid794]

Knowing lp wud remix the whole album! lol

[MissNatalie1984]

i don't mind the ballads, LOATR and SOTD i thought were really beautiful.

However, i am quite partial to the songs that make you want to jump and scream along with Chester. :D

Like everyone else is saying a nice mix would be... well, nice lol.

As long as the music still makes me feel something, then i'm quite happy.

<3 Natalie

[Vavi]

I think they should have fewer Ballads and More hard songs
and Rethink about putting some sCratching on because poor Joe is only directing the vids now!
and also mike should not make anoTher fort minor song for LP(yes,like HHH)..
I don't say go back to hybrid theory,but one or two songs similar to these would be an AWESOME surprise!

[ByMys3lf]

Hmm.I loved their first two albums but guys can't you see it?
They're changing.Change is not bad. They've taken a different direction and a good one. I like M2M a lot and I think that the 4th album will be more like M2M II with influences from Meteora.You know, something a bit more electronica.I hope so at least.I don't want so many ballads (there were four great ballads in M2M though) and they should play a bit more with rap and electronica. I don't know.We'll see.

[Vavi]

Hmm.I loved their first two albums but guys can't you see it?
They're changing.Change is not bad. They've taken a different direction and a good one. I like M2M a lot and I think that the 4th album will be more like M2M II with influences from Meteora.You know, something a bit more electronica.I hope so at least.I don't want so many ballads (there were four great ballads in M2M though) and they should play a bit more with rap and electronica. I don't know.We'll see.

i totally agree!

[minuteman]

I doubt there'll be an album in 2009, that's all I'm saying.

Plus, I doubt LP would revert back to the sound they had with their first couple of albums.

[MissNatalie1984]

writing down ideas an such is one thing, actually getting down to business and putting the ideas into action is another thing.

if LP released an album in 09, wouldn't that be a little... rushed?

yeah, i don't wanna wait ages for another album, but you can't rush genius, right? :D

<3 Natalie

[Vavi]

you can't rush age although,as well..
they'll get 40 if it takes them another 5 years!

[ByMys3lf]

I agree.If it takes them another bunch of 4-5 years they'll be around 35-36 years old. Which is not really positive actually.
But I think the album will be released in late 2009/early-mid 2010. I hope so at least.

[SuLFURIC_ACID]

I'm LP Fan From Pakistann..!

We All Want Their Old Style Back Although We Love MTM But Still HT Is Something That Makes Them Diffrent From The Rest... We Want another Rocking LIVE IN TEXAS DVD.... LP PLzz Go Back To HT STyle Or Atleast HT+MTM !

[NoFace]

I'm LP Fan From Pakistann..!

We All Want Their Old Style Back Although We Love MTM But Still HT Is Something That Makes Them Diffrent From The Rest... We Want another Rocking LIVE IN TEXAS DVD.... LP PLzz Go Back To HT STyle Or Atleast HT+MTM !

Your post with all those caps are is annoying. I don't care if it's your style or whatever, but it annoys a lot of people. Change it.

[LiNkEnPaRkDrUmMeR]

I just want the new album when it comes out I hope they combine new + old

[Moridin]

I'm LP Fan From Pakistann..!

We All Want Their Old Style Back.......... *snip*

Speak for yourself. I don't want them to go backwards, ahead I say!!

Besides they couldn't make HT again (well they could but wouldn't have same energy), they're in a different musical/personal space now. Trying to make another HT would be just turn out a cheap imitation, like Meteora almost was.
And I don't mean that harshly, just the structure of those albums/songs therin was so similar.

[ByMys3lf]

I want them not to look back. Of course, their first two albums were massive and there were huge hits and sales but Minute sto Midnight shows different directions and to be honest, yes, more mature. Some people say that maturity does not mean that the album is good but it is good, actually, it's a lot better than what I expected.
What I need is 2-3 more metal songs. I'll love an album, for instance, with 6-7 metal songs, 2-3 great ballads and then a bunch of 3-4 experimental songs.Yes, I love experimenting and I loved what they did with MtM.
Of course in the beginning, I was a bit shocked when I listened to it but I was not negative at all. It's different, yes. But it doesn't mean that it's bad.
Honestly, let's look at the future. Personally, I'm not staying in the past wanting another Hybrid Theory because it would be a cheap copy.
Meteora was an album working with radio-friendly catchy melodies and lots of electronica (I loved that).
Minutes to Midnight was an ultimate change and I'd adore a fourth album even more different but including more metal songs.
But I want them experimenting a lot with new fresh sounds and melodies. I trust them.

[shinoda_me]

to me Meteora would be their best album (musically) till date...
and i dont want one more of that 'cause its just plain awesome and an imitation of that would make it less special(to me atleast)

i love Hybrid Theory and Minutes To Midnight pretty much to the same level (a lot!)

lyrically i loved M2M
like everybody else i was surprised when they put out the album and i called it 'Chestery' as there wasn't much of Mike on the vocals
but yea .. the time i listened to Hands Held High and In Between made me realize that there isn't anymore of Mike needed.. that shit stole the show i'd say :)
i guess i'd love it if Linkin Park continued to go the M2M way one more time and started experimenting again, with ofcourse more of Mike's vocals :)

To fans of HT and Meteora .. stop cribbing .. if you love those albums, its still LP.. they do play it in live shows .. its not like their old style is dead (i know Mike said it 'died' in the Grammy's but i guess it lives on...)

[888]

i ain't expecting nothing but i think it would be more metal now cuss of the tour and its energy,,,,the reasons why i said this is when mtm was made they said it reflects where there was in the times in the life, meaning a mellow life with friends and family explaining mtm mellower sound then previous album, but if they do a quick follow up album i bet it would be the heaviest cuss of the touring and the energy, anyways i saw them:D live in msg and they was amazing love them to death...

[Lp_rock5967]

i liked minutes to midnight but not as old as their old stuff like meteora and hybird theory. it would be nice to see them use the old stuff again. but even if it is the new stuff it'll probably be just as good as the old one.

[SuLFURIC_ACID]

Here Comes Another Matter Of CHOICE... I Like Their Old Styles And Want Them back To That...!!

Well I Dont Think So They'll Do Another HT Or MTM They'll Bring Something Totally Diffrent :D Lolx

If Someone Get Annoyed By My Writing Style...












Who CareS :D

[LinkSora74]

i love M@M but their old stuff was great too..It should be a mixture of everything really

[AYAK22]

New style i think.
Im totally with the guys on going in new directions :)

[ThunderStrike]

Wouldn't it be cool if they did something that sounded similar to HT/Meteora as in a harder sound but with some more experimentation involved?

[NoFace]

Here Comes Another Matter Of CHOICE... I Like Their Old Styles And Want Them back To That...!!

Well I Dont Think So They'll Do Another HT Or MTM They'll Bring Something Totally Diffrent :D Lolx

If Someone Get Annoyed By My Writing Style...












Who CareS :D

You know what? You're such a dumbass.

[Highway2Hell]

no hurting feelings in here people.

[NoFace]

His/her writing hurts my eyes. And I'm not the first person to comment on that.

[Highway2Hell]

maybe you stare at the computer way too long?? or you are tired??

[NoFace]

Yeah I'm tired. Tired of stupid people.

[3Blin1k1]

What gets me is that he actually goes through the trouble of changing it up. Like thiS bEcause Its So cooL. Much easier and less annoying to let up on the shift key.

[Highway2Hell]

yeahh. the new album will be mtm part 2. old news.

[Highway2Hell]

Yeah I'm tired. Tired of stupid people.

get some rest dear. please.

[Scorpion_2099]

yeahh. the new album will be mtm part 2. old news.

I cannot wait! Doesn't anyone know what the Mtm title means to Chester? Get your fingers out of your behind and put it on the pulse soldier! The World is ending! We are the only ones who can make a difference. Who else will?

[SuLFURIC_ACID]

Hahahaha...

You're Getting Annoyed..... I Enjoyed IT :D

Every Stupid Thinks That Everyone Except Him, Is Stupid..So I Actually Dont Care..!


WE WANT HT+MTM !!!


WE WANT HT+MTM !!!


WE WANT HT+MTM !!!


WE WANT HT+MTM !!!


WE WANT HT+MTM !!!


WE WANT HT+MTM !!!

WE WANT HT+MTM !!!

[-Figure.09-]

i will probably just laugh if they would go back to old style on next album :) but i hope there could be something more "heavier" but still different. no more "in between"s

[Rob1]

The World is ending! We are the only ones who can make a difference. Who else will?
Coldplay...

[MissNatalie1984]

lol snap.

F-U-10-characters!

[olinahancar]

I hope they are going to produce new album next year cause i want see them on concert in Czech Republic again:)

[DaniPetri]

I wish they produced an album with this producer www.ericgreedy.com

[cloudscream]

just keep the good music flowing!
just expand your horizons.

[axrinekey]

I do hope that they'll combine every kind of genres into the new album...
xD
It would be great... I guess.

[ThunderStrike]

I do hope that they'll combine every kind of genres into the new album...
xD
It would be great... I guess.
I think you might wanna rephrase that...EVERY genre?

[axrinekey]

I think you might wanna rephrase that...EVERY genre?

erm...
yeah...
All kinds of genres...

Does that... not make sense? o_o;;;
erm... lol @_@

[supsupxxdurg]

id love more reanimation-style stuff.

i stole that cd from my brother so many times when he first bought it. XD

[Tidus3000]

YEA BOI! reanimation stuff i loved it, but a whole album i dont think would be good again.

The best way to do the next album is to finally properly record QWERTY (love that song) and more old stuff (mike rap wise) but wouldnt mind mixing that with things like given up!

awsomeness, i cant wait!!!!!!

[ThunderStrike]

YEA BOI! reanimation stuff i loved it, but a whole album i dont think would be good again.

The best way to do the next album is to finally properly record QWERTY (love that song) and more old stuff (mike rap wise) but wouldnt mind mixing that with things like given up!

awsomeness, i cant wait!!!!!!
There already IS a studio version of QWERTY. It's on the LPU 6 cd. And I'd really love to hear GOOD remixes of Meteora and MtM stuff.....not the crap like WID distorted remix.....

[Moridin]

I want all-new material, not remixes^^. They've done the remix thing.
Wherever they want to go style-wise? I don't mind as long as they aren't trying to please fans. Just write whatever they feel like writing.

[Tidus3000]

ok, id love them to release Qwerty on the Leave out all the rest single then! (uk is 21st july) but seriously, if u cant get the old LPU cds then where can u get stuff? its kinda a harsh way, especially for new fans, although i have been into LP since Mid Hybrid Thoery/Reanimaiton days.

And an interesting thing, would be to do a more hiphop cd and a more rock thing. 1 Album, 2 Genre's. Fort Minor & Linkin park mash-up maybe? Mike still does random versus live so wouldnt be too bad.

Well whatever it is, all i hope is i want it VERY soon!

[nicklovesleslie]

New album most likely to be completed by next year. http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2elpinside%2ecom%2ebr%2findex%2 ephp

[AmyLynette_91]

ya know... anything to do with LP, ill surely love it!

[_FaiNt_]

Like many musicans, Linkin Park just writes what comes to them... i mean, I think that can even be said for everyone... What comes out... is what comes out. It'll be good.

[smashingpumpkin]

I hope that they continue in the new direction. Songs like Leave Out All The Rest, Bleed It Out, Shadow of the Day, and No Roads Left are amazing and very different from their old material and they sound fresh. The old "nu metal" sound is dead, nobody really cares for it anymore and their old formula got boring.

I just hope that the next album features more rapping from Mike. Bleed it Out and Hands Held High were awesome and there needs to be more of it! Although, more songs featuring him on lead vocals wouldn't be too bad either. ;)

[3Blin1k1]

^^I like your username.

[Suru80]

All I ask for is more rap and more scratching. Then I'll be happy

[tachikoma]

I like the new album and all "as an loyal lp fan i always will"

but i really miss the original style that made me a loyal fan.

[Isandula]

Liked all the albums equally, probably by the slightest margin the older stuff (particuarly Meteora). So something along the lines of a mixture of both old and new would be good but I await to be surprised as whatever it is, it shall certainly be fantastic ;)

[rEEcEJ]

i think that the next album will be like meteora and m2m rolled into one with a great hybrid theory sounding song on there :p
thats what my telepathic powers feel

[theupsidedownbandit]

the old style, I mean I love the fact that they broke out with something new in M2M, I just hope they don't forget the original style that made me a hard core fan.

[rEEcEJ]

we need more songs on the album like breaking the habit or in pieces, i think we will hear more of lp's real sound as each album comes

[BillieJean]

wow!!!

i had no idea that they' r gonna have a new album!!!

i'd like them to have both styles in their new album..

mtm was the album that made some ppl who didn't listen to linkin ..to love them and buy all their cds..

that's why i believe that the styles should be mixed.

[GrosKaka]

What a new album IT'S AMAZING!!!!!!!! OMFG!!! I CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!

[GrosKaka]

I'd forget to say I think it was both styles... well I want because I wanna hear some solo and LP more rock

[Chackyzinha]

The first CD is my favorite , so i hope they really get a new CD in 2009 and hope they'll go back in time to Hybrid Theory style..

[NUMETAL_EMILY]

OLD LINKIN PARK WAS SO MUCH BETTER!
I brought m-t-m but i the only song i tolerate it bleed it out and given up.
i seriously am dissapointed in them commercialising beyond relief.....maybe they'd wake up n smell the coco
and get back jammin in their old style...their is only hope

:)

[NUMETAL_EMILY]

more rap!!!!!!!!! more more moreeeeeeeee and id like to hear mr hahn more too if its like m-t-m then bugger it.

[NUMETAL_EMILY]

The first CD is my favorite , so i hope they really get a new CD in 2009 and hope they'll go back in time to Hybrid Theory style..

i agreeeeeeee and so do millionsssssssssssss
:)

[JoeyDC]

I'm sure the guys will follow their heart and won't force themselves to go back to the old style just because some fans don't want them to move forward. Live with the fact that musicians have to try out different things and need to follow their inspirations and creativity! I love LP's new style, I did love their old style and I'll love their future style as well :).

[Qin]

actually m2m is out ov my imagination,my desire...i dunnt like it, i hope the new album will come soonnn...

[harp36]

:D i would want them to make it a little bit of both. because it would be like a mix.

[cloudscream]

I love the Linkin Park that ventures onto different styles and genres of music. Ballads, screams, metal, rhymes, samples and electronica, they even touched on punk and acoustic.
With Linkin Park all over the place, how could you not love them?

[aravind221]

cool music:)
http://1.music.bigpond-images.com/images/AlbumCoverArt/448/XXL/Hybrid-Theory.jpg

Super cool :)
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/2/24/Linkin_Park-Meteora.jpg

Need old school style purely Nu- metal rock hard .... or both mixed of old and new school style that would be fine

[faiintx]

i actually like both of their styles.
but for some reason, it felt like their old stuff was more strong.
but i DO love their new stuff just as much as their old stuff!
linkin park is the most genuine band ever...they really do know what they're doing.
and as of now, i don't know (or anyone here for that matter) what their next album will be like, but it's sure going to be good! i can't wait!
and plus chester's solo project is coming out soon too!
and that is going to be THE BEST .

sigh...im forever indebted to linkin park for making my life so great with their amazing music,.

[RagingWoman]

Its good to hear that a new album will possibly be coming out soon! I really hope we dont have too long for this.

Regarding the style of music for this new album, I'm open for anything. Although i have to say, I prefer something meteora flavoured, lol. I mean i really liked MTM but i didnt love it, and I got bored of it quickly. I guess all I can really hope for is that LP's next album will be bigger and better than anything they have done so far and that they will continue to break through any limitation that they face.

....I LOVE LINKIN PARK

[detel]

I like LP no matter what they perform. But I need more of their power. Anyway... I love him!!!!

[faiintx]

i think in this album they're definitley are going to become more melodic and emotional, because every album just keeps on getting more mature.

i think all their albums, and every single song on them (yes, even the EP & stuff) are truly an amazing work of art.
i don't know what exactly they're planning to do on their next album, but i do know that it will be AWESOME.
& i cant wait!

[SpawnOfShinona]

I think they will start something new mixed with there old style. maybe R&B Linkin Park lol

[AmyLynette_91]

im quite convinced that the new album will be a lot different..much like hybrid theory... hope so... i have confidence and faith in Lp!!!!!!!!!

[thenewLinkinPete]

They spent quite a huge amount of time and effort to get rid of the old style and how they use to make music, I really don´t think there would be any point in going back. And if the new album would be, let´s say heavier in general, it doesn´t mean it´s the old style again. They´ve explained it a thousand times.

I´m interested in if they have any acoustic ideas for the next one.. or new instruments (again) or smthng...they had all kinds of stuff when they were making MTM (remember the banjo?). Or maby Phoenix singing on the record alone or harmonies.

[Fragsterz]

I love both styles but i do prefer the old linkin park

[lauraSlinkin]

i say keep going the way they are, MTM is my favourite album. If they run back to their old style people will just bitch about them being boring.

[Lucci0la]

It is not true, new songs would not be boring. Just move on the same kind

[IKIsan_]

i don't care how they going to make their 2009 album, as long as it gonna satisfy my freaking eardrum.

yeah...

whatever fucking style of music they do, they'll always be awesome musicians. :D

[CHfan88]

I don't really expect anything from the new album. Just let them do what they want and when you listen to it for the first time, think as a music fan and not as a "Linkin Park music style" fan.

[mau_mon_san]

as long as its LP music then great!
...im so waiting for '09

[raw_lpfan]

2 things:

1) more of joe hahn

2) more rapping (...but not about politics)

...then this album would be great!

[Giffy]

yeah.. more rapping & maybe add a lil'bit solo in a song so Chester can take a deep breath just in a while :rolleyes:

[Sofia_LP4eva]

yeah.. more rapping & maybe add a lil'bit solo in a song so Chester can take a deep breath just in a while :rolleyes:

yeah, that'll be pretty damn awesome.

[aravind221]

100 times i say OLD STYLE NEEDED :)

[thenewLinkinPete]

100 times i say OLD STYLE NEEDED :)

101 times I say listen to HT or Meteora again.

Just to have smthnt more to say, they really opened whole lotta new doors with M2M. Could be, though, that they´d like to do maby something more hip- hopish, but in what form or how much is hard to say.. or then they do excatly the opposite:cool:

[DarkViruz]

i hope the new album sounds like "meteora" or the 1st "hybrid theory"

mtm isn't my fav...

miss a song like "lying from you"...with hard beats,...

[aravind221]

101 times I say listen to HT or Meteora again.

Just to have smthnt more to say, they really opened whole lotta new doors with M2M. Could be, though, that they´d like to do maby something more hip- hopish, but in what form or how much is hard to say.. or then they do excatly the opposite:cool:


i like minutes to midnight too but including one or two songs of old style in album is much preferable thats my point :o :)

[HybridGirl]

i think they won't come back in their old style, they also said it can be different from MTM, i'm curious about the new album, i hope it's amazing like all their albums, they rock.

[diff]

I sent this interview with Joe and Phoenix to LP Times yesterday, they talk about the fourth album but also mention it'll be something more. :confused:

http://84.20.138.5/includes/player/videoplayer.php?file_id=342

[thenewLinkinPete]

I sent this interview with Joe and Phoenix to LP Times yesterday, they talk about the fourth album but also mention it'll be something more. :confused:

http://84.20.138.5/includes/player/videoplayer.php?file_id=342


Hohoo, thank youuu, it was so weird to see them talk about Finland, <phoenix saying "ha" to us:D And remembering that I was there to see them play and met them!!!:p

Oh.. and it hit me that I´m pretty sure they mean a new DVD (!!!)
I´ve heared like rumours about it before..

[HybridGirl]

yeah maybe a dvd, who knows, i hope that!

[diff]

Hohoo, thank youuu, it was so weird to see them talk about Finland, <phoenix saying "ha" to us:D And remembering that I was there to see them play and met them!!!:p

Oh.. and it hit me that I´m pretty sure they mean a new DVD (!!!)
I´ve heared like rumours about it before..

So it's YOU who has listened to them since 1999?

[thenewLinkinPete]

So it's YOU who has listened to them since 1999?

Well, no I ment like to us in general. And I´m a guy (btw) and they person was a "she";)

About the video again, they seem really.. humain, you know. They´re chatting like.. almost like normal ppl, lol! And it´s so werid to think that we met them, still it is..

[Camodisc]

Keep the style form Meteora and Hybrid Theory!

[diff]

Well, no I ment like to us in general. And I´m a guy (btw) and they person was a "she";)

Oh I forgot the person they were talking about was 'she'. :D

[Moridin]

I sent this interview with Joe and Phoenix to LP Times yesterday, they talk about the fourth album but also mention it'll be something more. :confused:

http://84.20.138.5/includes/player/videoplayer.php?file_id=342

Interesting. So they were in studio before the summer working on an album that's "really interactive in an audio/visual kinda way"..... hmmmmm


And reguarding the "old style/new style" thing (and I'm sure I've said this many times), the "Old Style" is done and dusted. been there, done that, bought the albums kinda thing.
HT and Met are already so similar the good songs in that group have already been diluted and nearly lost in the songs that aren't so great but sound so much the same. Let's see different song structures and subject matter. MTM was a good step towards that. Forge ahead I say!

[Camodisc]

Keep the style from Meteora!

[lauraSlinkin]

do what the hell that they want i say, MTM is my fav album and ive listened to them from HT

[drpd112]

i really liked MTM......... as for their next album think its going to be more rock than hip-hop or rap stuff.... anyways regardless of wat style, its going to sound great for sure so really looking forward to it.. :)

[lindseyloveslinkin]

i personaly love MTM! i thought it was amaaaizing. but i also loved hybrid theory and metetora so i hope that they will continue with the mtm style, but with a harder, edgyer style. well no matter what, they are the best band in the universe!

[evilpineapples]

Why are people so resistant to change in music? Linkin Park will continue to alter and experiment with their style, just as all relevant musicians do, and I hope their next album sounds fresh, unique, and nothing like their previous efforts. A re-hash of any of their previous three albums would be repetitive and an injustice to the talent and creativity present amongst the members of this band. I loved Meteora and I think it represents the best work Linkin Park have done thus far, but that doesn't mean I want Meteora 2.0 as the next album. That would be boring and repetitive. If bands aren't constantly re-evaluating their style and incorporating new elements into their sound, they become dated and irrelevant. I applaud Linkin Park for allowing their sound to evolve as time goes on, and I hope that they continue this practice into the future.

[Rolf_M]

Well, I don't know how their next album will be...They just have do what they want, as long they're happy for what they're doing and putting an effort into their work, then I can't ask for more. Personally I like the old LP albums best. I've been a fan since HT. But I really love all their albums, MTM is also awesome :). Just they keep continuing making music and giving concerts then I'm happy :). I'm sure their next album is going to be awesome, no matter what style they choose, it's LP, it can't go wrong xD

[_LiNkiN_PaRk09]

i hope it'll be more like a heavier Minutes To Midnight just like No More Sorrow and Given Up

[Pac]

Keep the style from Meteora!

God no............

[RaqdoLLP]

kleck'e katılıyorum linkin park'ın yaptığı tüm albümler harika oluyo ama meteora yada hybrid theory yaptıkları en iyi albümlerdi minutes to midnight'ın tüm şarkıları bi meteora ya asla benzemez eski tarzınıza dönün LÜTFEN!!!...

[aravind221]

mix of both :)

[xEsaul]

They aren't Linkin Park anymore with the new sound. The original Linkin Park was rap and rock combined. Without it they are a new identity. They should just change their name. I rather see them go back to the old style. I also hate their new image too, it's not them.

[BendingTheStory]

They aren't Linkin Park anymore with the new sound. The original Linkin Park was rap and rock combined. Without it they are a new identity. They should just change their name. I rather see them go back to the old style. I also hate their new image too, it's not them.

people change. you've changed, i've changed, everyone's changed from what they used to be 5 years ago. sometimes doing the same thing over and over again gets boring. i'm glad that linkin park made mtm because they can show everyone that they can make music that isn't just rap rock all the time.

[Rolf_M]

They aren't Linkin Park anymore with the new sound. The original Linkin Park was rap and rock combined. Without it they are a new identity. They should just change their name. I rather see them go back to the old style. I also hate their new image too, it's not them.

Yes it's them...They've changed, just a fact you've to accept. And yes they're still the original Linkin Park, all the bandmembers are still there. If they were called Hybrid Theory, then yes, that would be a pretty stupid bandname for them now. They shouldn't definitely not change their name, it would make no sense.

I've been a fan since HT, and yes I like their old style best, but their new style is pretty good too. I rather see LP changing style and keep having fun, than they suddenly would quit and stop they music career because they got bored with making the same type of music over and over again. Changes are a necessary part of life if you want it to be exiciting and keep having fun. I don't know why I answered this, I just think it was a ridiculous thing to say that they should change name. It's fine you don't like their new style, but complaining about it's not Linkin Park anymore and they should change name, well, just silly.


Or actually, Yeah, dude maybe it's not the original LP anymore. Some aliens came in their UFO and kidnap LP. Then they cloned all the bandmembers from LP and sent their clones down on the earth so the fans won't noticed the original LP bandmembers are gone. And of course the aliens program the clones to make a different kind of music so they would upset thousands of fans that like the old LP style better. Actually LP is just a little part of the aliens' big masterplan. They've already kidnapped Michael Jackson a long time ago. Their cloning technology was very bad back then, which explains why Michael Jackson suddenly turned white and got a weird nose. Then they kidnapped Britney Spears and made a Britney clone, which explains why she shaved her hair of and got drunk all the time. And now LP, I guess their next target will be Metallica, Timberlake and Timbaland. All this artists will change in someway because they're clones. Which means that millions of fans all over the world will sit in front of their computer and use all their valuable time on complaining how their favorite artists have changed. Then the aliens will attack because almost everybody will be inside complaining, and won't notice the ufos. YES LP SHOULD CHANGE NAME, THEY'RE ALIEN CLONES.

Well, just kidding about the last part, I was a bit bored xD

[BendingTheStory]

Yes it's them...They've changed, just a fact you've to accept. And yes they're still the original Linkin Park, all the bandmembers are still there. If they were called Hybrid Theory, then yes, that would be a pretty stupid bandname for them now. They shouldn't definitely not change their name, it would make no sense.

I've been a fan since HT, and yes I like their old style best, but their new style is pretty good too. I rather see LP changing style and keep having fun, than they suddenly would quit and stop they music career because they got bored with making the same type of music over and over again. Changes are a necessary part of life if you want it to be exiciting and keep having fun. I don't know why I answered this, I just think it was a ridiculous thing to say that they should change name. It's fine you don't like their new style, but complaining about it's not Linkin Park anymore and they should change name, well, just silly.


Or actually, Yeah, dude maybe it's not the original LP anymore. Some aliens came in their UFO and kidnap LP. Then they cloned all the bandmembers from LP and sent their clones down on the earth so the fans won't noticed the original LP bandmembers are gone. And of course the aliens program the clones to make a different kind of music so they would upset thousands of fans that like the old LP style better. Actually LP is just a little part of the aliens' big masterplan. They've already kidnapped Michael Jackson a long time ago. Their cloning technology was very bad back then, which explains why Michael Jackson suddenly turned white and got a weird nose. Then they kidnapped Britney Spears and made a Britney clone, which explains why she shaved her hair of and got drunk all the time. And now LP, I guess their next target will be Metallica, Timberlake and Timbaland. All this artists will change in someway because they're clones. Which means that millions of fans all over the world will sit in front of their computer and use all their valuable time on complaining how their favorite artists have changed. Then the aliens will attack because almost everybody will be inside complaining, and won't notice the ufos. YES LP SHOULD CHANGE NAME, THEY'RE ALIEN CLONES.

Well, just kidding about the last part, I was a bit bored xD

also i have to add that if anyone does not like the new linkin park, then don't listen to them. you don't command what linkin park should sound like or say what they HAVE to sound like. if you don't like what you hear, then stop listening to them and stop the moaning and groaning.

[GraffitiFreak]

also i have to add that if anyone does not like the new linkin park, then don't listen to them. you don't command what linkin park should sound like or say what they HAVE to sound like. if you don't like what you hear, then stop listening to them and stop the moaning and groaning.

agreed.

10chars.

[Moridin]

Rolf and Bendi speak the truth!

[Hybr1d_7h3ory]

I would much rather see LP experiment with different styles. If you listen to HT-MTM back to back you can really tell how they have grown up over the years and matured. These things are why LP is still going strong and some say better than ever after 8 years of being mainstream. You can't name many bands that have made it this long with continued success with each album.

But I will say I do like the style of HT the best, but that was also when the members of LP were in their early-to mid 20s.

If I could have my way I would want their new album to have some darker stuff on it. Like the riffs form A06 or And1, those two songs are very dark deep and ominous. But I can guarantee, that whatever LP comes up with I will more than enjoy it.

[Adonis]

MTM included old stylee and a new styl which make it a great album.they know what to do.they always give you new things.they are great.

I think the New Album should be like BOTH...new style and also old style

[DarkViruz]

MTM included old stylee and a new styl which make it a great album.they know what to do.they always give you new things.they are great.

I think the New Album should be like BOTH...new style and also old style


right, lp reinvent everytime new

[jessie92]

Honestly,I don't really care ... I don't think the styles matters. WEll,they are Linkin Park - they are ALWAYS good =)

[MegaManX2]

And I said.. I would stop doing this after 4 years of fighting with people like you in this forum.. but I guess history repeats itself. But let it be known "that you can pick it up and just bang your head to it"

Yes it's them...They've changed, just a fact you've to accept. And yes they're still the original Linkin Park, all the bandmembers are still there. If they were called Hybrid Theory, then yes, that would be a pretty stupid bandname for them now. They shouldn't definitely not change their name, it would make no sense.

I agree with you here. No matter what change happened. This is the band, this is them. Name changing does not need to happen what so ever.

I've been a fan since HT, and yes I like their old style best, but their new style is pretty good too. I rather see LP changing style and keep having fun, than they suddenly would quit and stop they music career because they got bored with making the same type of music over and over again. Changes are a necessary part of life if you want it to be exiciting and keep having fun.

While the whole fan thing to some extent holds ground it should be something that doesn't matter in a debate like this as we are all fans of the SAME band and we are all here for the SAME reason. BUT, their is one problem with this whole new "style" thing. Being a band is like a family, and you grow as a family, growing you do not CHANGE who you are as an a person.. unless that is you want to be like Michael Jackson. Changing style's in music is like changing your skin color or your sexuality, are you not proud of it?. You are part of this family for a reason, and you were raised in a certain way, why in the blue moon would you want disgrace who you are? Are you not proud of being part of this family? This family that represents the birth of some of the best composed instrumental tracks out of a mind that is that of hip hop driven with guitar riffs? Why would you try to change what you are just so you can satisfy your the masses? I say this with the pure intentions that "Reanimation" is truly Linkin Park at their core and us selfish fans did not appreciate it.

This new style completely drove away the core output of what the band was called. The band's original name was "Hybrid Theory" do not forget it, it was not LINKIN PARK. Linkin Park is their "Brand name" their is a reason the Hybrid Theory was used as a name. Mike had a "concept" an idea, a vision that Rap and Rock could co-exist in the same world. IF you don't believe it, go listen to his songs in the lyrics, he's always mentioning this, his instrumental material is proof of this, and finally Reanimation is beyond proof of this... but as a "Theory" we failed.. the theory failed, he realized such thing would not exist. From a business man stand point it died.. that's why we were fed this new "style". The M2M, based on one style that was born in Meteora, which was Breaking The Habit. I don not know what to consider the new style as it lacks the "edge" that Linkin Park had once. The edge of anthem driven songs and the edge of songs that just felt "Epic" when you heard them. I hear them now and they sound like songs I would hear on an airplane radio or a movie soundtrack *oh look at that it's in it!* or in a commercial or something. They've lost their value.. and THIS I do not like. Because I stood once as a street soldier for this family that believed in this theory and because we didn't appreciate the "hip-hop" factor the theory was vanished. Also, money makes the world dance.. so thus that is why we no longer have the old style. But I have hope with this concept album, this album might just do the trick, might bring back up the old flare I used to know as Linkin Park.

Or actually, Yeah, dude maybe it's not the original LP anymore. Some aliens came in their UFO and kidnap LP. Then they cloned all the bandmembers from LP and sent their clones down on the earth so the fans won't noticed the original LP bandmembers are gone. And of course the aliens program the clones to make a different kind of music so they would upset thousands of fans that like the old LP style better. Actually LP is just a little part of the aliens' big masterplan. They've already kidnapped Michael Jackson a long time ago. Their cloning technology was very bad back then, which explains why Michael Jackson suddenly turned white and got a weird nose. Then they kidnapped Britney Spears and made a Britney clone, which explains why she shaved her hair of and got drunk all the time. And now LP, I guess their next target will be Metallica, Timberlake and Timbaland. All this artists will change in someway because they're clones. Which means that millions of fans all over the world will sit in front of their computer and use all their valuable time on complaining how their favorite artists have changed. Then the aliens will attack because almost everybody will be inside complaining, and won't notice the ufos. YES LP SHOULD CHANGE NAME, THEY'RE ALIEN CLONES.

Yea that cloning machine is called business.. and some people just give into it. I know one band that didn't, Iron Maiden, the only thing that fucked them over was that their lead singer left for a time period, but their album from 06 was by far the best thing I've heard from a long running band that was able to keep their style and mature it.

And with that point.. that is all I ask from Linkin Park. Linkin Park in M2M did not "revolutionize" their style. Instead they "glamorized" it. They made it pretty so all the people could relate to it. It was no longer targeted to just on specific crowed *sorry kids if this was the emo crowd but this is how business and corporate works*... but as musicians whether this is what they were doing, it is insulting to me and everyone that is aware of this. The band has so much POTENTIAL, to tap into that old style and "extended" it.

All I've seen is this:
Hybrid Theory = original product
Reanimation = What linkin parks next album should've sounded like BUT NOT WITH THE material from the FIRST product.
Meteora = a clone of the original product
M2M = the original product "glamorized". It's new, don't get me wrong just all nice and "pretty" but not original. It's just mainstream bullshit.

Yes this is all opinion but I am willing to go the whole way to break it down for you fans that do not understand where I am pulling this from. And I will hold Linkin Park's Reanimation DVDA 5.1 as my alibi which I feel sorry for Mike because I saw his vision and not alot of people appreciated that vision.

And yes.. I know you were bored and u were doing it for all fun.. but the sad reality is that joke is what we are envisioning in a way. This is reality now. This is "Linkin Park" as of 11/25/08. And I want the boy that did the genius on:

Hybrid Theory
Reanimation
The Rising Tied

Back in action. As I have faith that Mike wakes up and spits me out some good fire.

[Pac]

Reanimation was pretty bad ass. Fuck Meteora, I want more Reanimation.

[Bartman_953]

I reckon the lads should play what they would like to hear from themselves. Not what everyone is ordering them to do. For my personal opinion, Hybrid and Reanimation were awesome, sheer masterpieces. Metora felt like HT v2.0 with the obivious changes heavier riffs from Dave and Bradford and more stuff from the crazy Lord Hahn. Minutes to Midnight was good in it's own right because if you scratched the glossy surface, you still had old LP coming out but more matured, like wine. Now with the concept album Trials and Tribulations of the SuperXero comming out (That's what I've christen the new album), I belive that the guys should play what they want to. I don't care if it sounds like old LP or M2M punk rock, it will sound good.

[Animate]

MtM was a failed experiment by Linkin Park...
What I've Done was probably the best song from MtM because it has the energy from Hybrid Theory..The Singing Style of Meteora and the Meaning Of MtM...
Maybe they should just do what they like..what they really want to do instead of giving in to stupid fans asking for something different...
I really want them to enjoy the process of creating their next alblum...

[Crube]

Maybe they should just do what they like..

Exactly. Isn't that one of the points of starting a band to begin with?

[Animate]

I would love to see the new album being Reanimation Based..
I loved Reanimation because it was different from the other's..
Creativity is what the band needs..
Reanimation was probably what they were doing what they like..

[MegaManX2]

MtM was a failed experiment by Linkin Park...
What I've Done was probably the best song from MtM because it has the energy from Hybrid Theory..The Singing Style of Meteora and the Meaning Of MtM...
Maybe they should just do what they like..what they really want to do instead of giving in to stupid fans asking for something different...
I really want them to enjoy the process of creating their next alblum...

If I could describe "What I've Done" and this was "Don't Mess With The Zohan" it would be like that scene where he drinks the fizzy bubbler and drinks it in one gulp! and says "It's not for me"

Really... I see What I've Done and ... it's like water. I like other flavors and textures that I had. I can always get water anywhere else, but linkin park? Come on =/.

[MegaManX2]

I would love to see the new album being Reanimation Based..
I loved Reanimation because it was different from the other's..
Creativity is what the band needs..
Reanimation was probably what they were doing what they like..

Reanimation is them. It truly is. To truly appreciate Reanimation you have to have to have to have to and I MEAN have to listen to it on a home theater system on a 5.1 channel. I've come to appreciate the fact that there so many "sounds" within the songs that for your ears to begin to comprehend what he did you need to hear it all in 5.1 channels, not in 2 channels. Reanimation was not designed to be heard on an mp3 player or a CD. Most of the sounds / instruments were compressed just to fit in the CD.

I've learned of such thing ever since I no longer download mp3s due to their shitty ass quality. Either I buy the CD or get a copy , or get FLACs. My ears feel populated hearing music in other methods.


And finally the reason I come to such conclusion is... if any of you have Rock Band, and you got the 5.1 you will truly realize why the stupid game is so popular. Ace 100% one step closer on 5.1 it will probably be the best experience you've had from Hybrid Theory. I am telling you.. Mike was too ahead for his time lol. But I think his time is now. 2009... I believe in the cat he can make it.

[halfpunkgrl4]

[quote=MegaManX2;468712]And I said.. I would stop doing this after 4 years of fighting with people like you in this forum.. but I guess history repeats itself. But let it be known "that you can pick it up and just bang your head to it"



I agree with you here. No matter what change happened. This is the band, this is them. Name changing does not need to happen what so ever.


remember what mike said once...about the band name he wanted the music to defy the name...not have the name define the music.

[MegaManX2]

^

Year Mike said that. Just curious. Cuz people say a lot of shit over the years.

[tpbarbosa]

I hear them now and they sound like songs I would hear on an airplane radio or a movie soundtrack *oh look at that it's in it!* or in a commercial or something. They've lost their value.. and THIS I do not like. Because I stood once as a street soldier for this family that believed in this theory and because we didn't appreciate the "hip-hop" factor the theory was vanished. Also, money makes the world dance.. so thus that is why we no longer have the old style. But I have hope with this concept album, this album might just do the trick, might bring back up the old flare I used to know as Linkin Park.

And with that point.. that is all I ask from Linkin Park. Linkin Park in M2M did not "revolutionize" their style. Instead they "glamorized" it. They made it pretty so all the people could relate to it. It was no longer targeted to just on specific crowed *sorry kids if this was the emo crowd but this is how business and corporate works*... but as musicians whether this is what they were doing, it is insulting to me and everyone that is aware of this. The band has so much POTENTIAL, to tap into that old style and "extended" it.

All I've seen is this:
Hybrid Theory = original product
Reanimation = What linkin parks next album should've sounded like BUT NOT WITH THE material from the FIRST product.
Meteora = a clone of the original product
M2M = the original product "glamorized". It's new, don't get me wrong just all nice and "pretty" but not original. It's just mainstream bullshit.

Back in action. As I have faith that Mike wakes up and spits me out some good fire.

I agree with you in these points I've quoted
First time I've listened to MTM I really didn't understand why ppl called it as a "Revolution" on their sound. I just saw a suddenly change of style, either on sound, lyrics and their own appearance. They still Linkin Park, of course, but I guess it all happened because they were almost 3 years out of the music scene, so they should come up with something new, something that everyone was driven to listen, and they did.
I don't know if it happened because of the money (what I really want to believe it's not) or to get new fans. I just think they shouldn't have changed their old style. They should have made this even better.

Well that's what I hope. they to come up with something original, without any steriotyped sound. I mean I just want them to be themselves :D

[MegaManX2]

Same here, cheers and hope that this concept album brings out the fiyah again.

Till then. "It's It! What is it?"

[Moridin]

I agree with you here. No matter what change happened. This is the band, this is them. Name changing does not need to happen what so ever.

I think this might be the only thing I agree with you on here.

Being a band is like a family, and you grow as a family,
Yes
growing you do not CHANGE who you are as an a person..
No. Growing IS change, there's no two ways about it.

unless that is you want to be like Michael Jackson. Changing style's in music is like changing your skin color or your sexuality, are you not proud of it?.
Hell no, that's totally ridiculous. Would you say that to Bob Dylan? Led Zeppelin? Metallica? to name a few. The best bands evolved and experimented, challenged themselves. When they succeeded in that was proof that they were the best of the best. Nothing great ever came out of staying the same (AC/DC being an anomaly ;) )
Developing/experimenting with different types of music is just another way of showing/exploring different sides of yourself. Just because YOU hadn't heard that part of them before doesn't mean it wasn't there.

You are part of this family for a reason, and you were raised in a certain way, why in the blue moon would you want disgrace who you are?
God forbid someone question what they were brought up to believe in:rolleyes:
"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible"
Can't remember who said that..... might've been Frank Zappa.

Are you not proud of being part of this family?[/QOUTE]

NO! if that means I have to be pigeon-holed and stopped from expressing any/all sides of myself, warts and all. Nobody's perfect.

[QUOTE]This family that represents the birth of some of the best composed instrumental tracks out of a mind that is that of hip hop driven with guitar riffs?
I wouldn't go that far, LP stuck to pretty much the same song structure throughout HT & Met. There wasn't a whole lot there musically.

Why would you try to change what you are just so you can satisfy your the masses?
They have a huge fanbase, staying the same (HT, Met) would = pleasing the masses. And anyway a lot of MTM still played to what they did on earlier albums. (GU, LOATR, BIO, NMS, WID)
As to "why move on from that"? Really? how about being tired of writing that kind of thing. Y'know, "been there, done that, mission acomplished" Peoples goals/priorities can change y'know.

I say this with the pure intentions that "Reanimation" is truly Linkin Park at their core and us selfish fans did not appreciate it.
If that was them at their core then wouldn't the prior releases have actually sounded like that? Yes. Reani was a really cool experiment that probably had more to do with Mike than the rest of the band. Personally I want to hear what they come up with when they work as a unit. TLTGYA (IMO by far their greatest musical accomplishment and incidentally they had never done anything like it before) probably wouldn't have happened with their old system (It was built around Robs drum idea)

This new style completely drove away the core output of what the band was called. The band's original name was "Hybrid Theory" do not forget it,
Again, mission accomplished, even though they still incorporate different things into the music, it's not just rap/rock/electronica anymore and it's more subtle.

it was not LINKIN PARK. Linkin Park is their "Brand name" their is a reason the Hybrid Theory was used as a name.
If Hybrid Theory was still their name then that would be the brand name:p


Mike had a "concept" an idea, a vision that Rap and Rock could co-exist in the same world.
Aye, he did and then he achieved that. Why beat a dead horse?

The M2M, based on one style that was born in Meteora, which was Breaking The Habit.
In that some songs leaned to the ballad side, but as a whole the album is not based on BTH. Closest you'd get in "style" is LOATR


I don not know what to consider the new style as it lacks the "edge" that Linkin Park had once.
The edge of having all song structures and lyrical themes almost identical?

The edge of anthem driven songs and the edge of songs that just felt "Epic" when you heard them.
If by anthem you mean catchy hooks(both vocal and musical) and lyrics that the masses can easily latch on to. Which of course they still do but bottom line, MTM is musically and lyrically superior and more diverse than it's predecessors. It's more challenging, it's more than just "pick it up and bang your head to it".

I hear them now and they sound like songs I would hear on an airplane radio or a movie soundtrack
Right, cause nothing from HT or Met was ever in a film...... oh wait..:eek:
POA, Numb, Session, Fig9... ring any bells??


And with that point.. that is all I ask from Linkin Park. Linkin Park in M2M did not "revolutionize" their style. Instead they "glamorized" it. They made it pretty so all the people could relate to it.
Hello!! They were already hugely popular, they have been since HT dropped. All the people could already relate to their music for reasons I've explained above, nothing really changed there.
Though I think "glamorized" would be the wrong word. Indie is what was "in" at the time and that definately crept into the music and production so I agree there's a bit of bandwagoning there. But remember the early '00's? rap/rock was in then so....


It was no longer targeted to just on specific crowed *sorry kids if this was the emo crowd but this is how business and corporate works*... but as musicians whether this is what they were doing, it is insulting to me and everyone that is aware of this. The band has so much POTENTIAL, to tap into that old style and "extended" it.
The fact that you thought they were already targeting a specific group should mean your just as insulted with the "old style" as with the "new"
I'll re-state:
musically and lyrically MTM>>the rest of it.
MTM has a lot of HT style to it, it HAS been extended (again WID, BIO, NMS GU)
But like they've said about the sound in general
"we took it as far as we could"


All I've seen is this:
Hybrid Theory = original product
Reanimation = What linkin parks next album should've sounded like BUT NOT WITH THE material from the FIRST product.
Meteora = a clone of the original product
M2M = the original product "glamorized". It's new, don't get me wrong just all nice and "pretty" but not original. It's just mainstream bullshit.
I take issue with the word "original". I'm reminded that I agree with something a wise old LPUer said:
"Nothing is truly original" (paraphrase)
I agree Met = clone, but it was way over-produced and therefore "pretty".
As long as they play from their hearts and do what they want to do (as much as you can when you have 6 opinions to accomodate), then it's all cool with me whether I end up liking the music or not.

I think of it this way:
LP started a journey, they got on a buss with some fans headed towards a particular destination. Some people realized they were on the wrong bus and got off, after a time others started to dislike the buss and got off. Still the rest of us continued along with LP and eventually when LP's stop came many of us got off the buss with them to tread new ground and explore the horizons. Others, whether they fell asleep or their seat was so comfortable they didn't want to leave, stayed on the bus....
some people even got off the buss but when they saw the destination they jumped back on the buss and roard at the buss driver "Get me the fuck outa here dude!"

Well that sounded better in my head but you get the idea.

Christ! That's hella fuckin long!

[Rolf_M]

Yea that cloning machine is called business.. and some people just give into it. I know one band that didn't, Iron Maiden, the only thing that fucked them over was that their lead singer left for a time period, but their album from 06 was by far the best thing I've heard from a long running band that was able to keep their style and mature it.

And with that point.. that is all I ask from Linkin Park. Linkin Park in M2M did not "revolutionize" their style. Instead they "glamorized" it. They made it pretty so all the people could relate to it. It was no longer targeted to just on specific crowed *sorry kids if this was the emo crowd but this is how business and corporate works*... but as musicians whether this is what they were doing, it is insulting to me and everyone that is aware of this. The band has so much POTENTIAL, to tap into that old style and "extended" it.

All I've seen is this:
Hybrid Theory = original product
Reanimation = What linkin parks next album should've sounded like BUT NOT WITH THE material from the FIRST product.
Meteora = a clone of the original product
M2M = the original product "glamorized". It's new, don't get me wrong just all nice and "pretty" but not original. It's just mainstream bullshit.

Yes this is all opinion but I am willing to go the whole way to break it down for you fans that do not understand where I am pulling this from. And I will hold Linkin Park's Reanimation DVDA 5.1 as my alibi which I feel sorry for Mike because I saw his vision and not alot of people appreciated that vision.

And yes.. I know you were bored and u were doing it for all fun.. but the sad reality is that joke is what we are envisioning in a way. This is reality now. This is "Linkin Park" as of 11/25/08. And I want the boy that did the genius on:

Hybrid Theory
Reanimation
The Rising Tied

Back in action. As I have faith that Mike wakes up and spits me out some good fire.

Indeed, I think the most of us LP fans want the old LP back, back to the revolutionizing Hybrid style. I do agree it's a pitty LP changed, and a part of them really died with MTM. But thing changes, and time changes, we can't do anything about it except for hoping that they may return to their roots with their next albums, but unfortunately I think that time is over. The whole NU-metal genre kinda died with LP. Back then LP revolutionized the whole genre and made the perfect combination of metal and rap, and all the sound effects do really make an difference in the songs. I've always loved Hybrid Theory for this mix, and the instrumental composing is just brilliant. When that's said, I will still stay my ground and say changes are necessary if you want to keep having fun and see things in more than one way.



The fact about life is that you can't stop changes from happening, and unfortunately things you might like is going to change too sometimes. It's sad that LP changed style, but it would be more sad if they've stopped making music as I see it. Maybe the change is because of business, or maybe they really wanted to try something new, despite they've known that many of their fans wouldn't be glad with these changes...But we'll never know for sure which one of these two options that's the true one (Just like, did U.S.A. went to Iraq because of Oil or to get rid of Saddam Hussein, that's another discussion:))

But in my opinion, I trully believe that LP has grown tired of making the same type of music. Meteora and Hybrid Theory sound very much as each other, and sometimes you've to try something new in your life. LP has always been a band who love experimenting with music, that was why they started with combining metal and rap in the first place, to do something new even though many said "This will never be a success". But it did. Like they said about "MTM". They wouldn't make a triology, but try something new they haven't tried before. Actually they're still the same band as before, the band who loves to experiment their music competence and see what the outcome will be when they're finished with the recording.

Actually, this can't be compared with things like changing your "Skin colour". Music is LP's work, and imagine if you've a work where you would do the same thing over and over again. IMO it's more fun to cross new borders and try something new. Only if you do that you can see things in more different ways. And maybe someday LP will try to go back to the HT style for fun, and get the feeling of "This were where the whole thing started". I don't know about you, but I like to see life in more than one way, and be able to choose my own path instead of having people telling me how I should stay and be. You should do what that feels right in your heart...Yeah, I was raised in an certain way, but that doesn't mean I can't change my path and discover new things, even though some might start to dislike me because I'm changing a bit. But all that makes us human is to do what's within our Hearts. and the same thing for music. Make music with the heart, that gives so much soul too it.

If I should choose how their next album should be like, then it should have some of the darker influence from Hybrid Theory EP songs like "Part of Me", "Carousel" and "And One" and at the same time have all the instrumental soul of Reanimation, Hybrid Theory and Meteora.

But again...LP should just do what they like, it's nice to see they're still having fun and are happy with what they're doing.

People should just stop complaining and enjoy that LP has been making music for a decade and still enjoy it. LP will properly be in the music industry as long as Metallica if they keep experimenting :)

[Animate]

No matter how much i want the old LP back(actually i really do)
I cant change the fact that LP has changed and wants to try something new...
Even if u hate MtM..At least show some respect knowing that they did put in effort into that album...
Maybe they tried something new because they wanted to attract more and newer fans so they get more money(kidding)
Anyway..I never liked MtM that much..
Even though i liked the 1st 6 songs of the album...
Its suprising how the 1st 6 song were singles..
Since its not up to us to decide whether what the album will be..
Just hope that the next album will not be a disppointment..
And if u hate it..Please...At least respect it...
Its their hard work and stop saying that MtM songs sucks because they dont..

[MegaManX2]

I think this might be the only thing I agree with you on here.
Yes

No. Growing IS change, there's no two ways about it.

Right.. it is change. You grow you change but you are always you at the core. You just add on from past experiences and make your own mold and things of what you are. You "extend" your being, you don't go all out and try to change your name / personality / your beliefs / the way you talk things that you've done for years just because you didn't appeal a certain crowd.



Hell no, that's totally ridiculous. Would you say that to Bob Dylan? Led Zeppelin? Metallica? to name a few. The best bands evolved and experimented, challenged themselves. When they succeeded in that was proof that they were the best of the best. Nothing great ever came out of staying the same (AC/DC being an anomaly )
Developing/experimenting with different types of music is just another way of showing/exploring different sides of yourself. Just because YOU hadn't heard that part of them before doesn't mean it wasn't there.

Experimented, and evolved. I love those words... truly do. So how come we went backwards from Reanimation to Meteora to M2M? That's not evolving. That's changing direction. Experimenting? If you want to say on their true core structure sound that they have, yea it was an experiment alright but most of the ingredients that make them were not there. Even they stated it before the album was released. There's "some" Linkin Park sprinkled on this M2M. The rest is really new. And the whole "developing/experimenting" with different types, you can't go ahead and do that. You completely cancel out what you represent. When you do music you stick to a sound that represents you, and you expand / evolve from it. You don't suddenly are a rock artist like AC/DC and then drop what the hell you are doing and decide to say You know I think I am going to do the hip-hop thing for a while. And that part of them was made based on the complaints and reviews from Meteora. Seriously, how much criticism this band has gotten, there was even a website called "linkinparksucks.com" and "linkin park is like a rollercoaster" and yes this was because of their song structures but these song structures are the most basic ones that need to exist for rap and rock to co-exist. He was able to out do it in Reanimation, how come he couldn't further enhance later as an ablum.


God forbid someone question what they were brought up to believe in:rolleyes:
"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible"
Can't remember who said that..... might've been Frank Zappa.


So there's not things you stand up and believe in, even up to this day. You don't have a motto / passion / or drive something to believe in. Not saying "god" but we all have something to look forward. Do you not have something like this? Just asking.


NO! if that means I have to be pigeon-holed and stopped from expressing any/all sides of myself, warts and all. Nobody's perfect.

Right.. except you are forgetting Linkin Park is a company. Once you establish yourself as a mainstream band you gotta look at things from a financial stand point, this isn't like the 80s where you could fuck up shit and have the next year to experiment. The music industry has been virtually KILLED by the internet. Leaving 0 room for error. And when corporate knows about this, they will have their way with their product because one failed year means it's over. And Linkin Park has been under the umbrella for quite some time. Meteora is a prime example of this.


I wouldn't go that far, LP stuck to pretty much the same song structure throughout HT & Met. There wasn't a whole lot there musically.

Same song structure in HT because again this was the "original" product. When your LPuer friend said that you must've took it out of context. Because I am referring to "original" within the realm of Linkin Park, not original within the realm of other musicians. What they have done yes is not original, but as them as the group, Hybrid Theory is their original concept.


They have a huge fanbase, staying the same (HT, Met) would = pleasing the masses. And anyway a lot of MTM still played to what they did on earlier albums. (GU, LOATR, BIO, NMS, WID)
As to "why move on from that"? Really? how about being tired of writing that kind of thing. Y'know, "been there, done that, mission acomplished" Peoples goals/priorities can change y'know.


Pleasing the masses, as in everyone. Not just the HT, Met fans. That is not the masses. The masses means about everyone that likes Rock music, not just Hybrid Theory and Meteora. From a marketing stand point, why would I bother making another album to keep the same "mass" that I already know I have established and trust us as a brand Linkin Park. They know that with the next album they can capture a brand new mass while keeping their old ones and feeding them the whole "oh we are just turning a new leaf" bullshit that every band does at some point.

Also, my argument isn't lyrics here. You know songs go hand on hand.. it's a 2 part deal. Lyrics / Instruments. The lyrics are great, probably my only PLUS to M2M, but the instrumental composition, that's just a disgrace as an old Linkin Park fan. It's not them. It might be my opinion but I'll back that up because the "fire" is gone. It's subtle you are correct. And sorry if I didn't clarify that my argument was based on the "instrumental" part because this is why many people fell in love with Linkin Park as I recall. Like songs like In The End, Crawling, One Step Closer because they had some catchy ass guitar riffs / pianos / or sounds. Again, the hip-hop factor :).


If that was them at their core then wouldn't the prior releases have actually sounded like that? Yes. Reani was a really cool experiment that probably had more to do with Mike than the rest of the band.

Huh? Excuse me? Had more Mike? Are you saying because it had more "Hip-Hop" it had more Mike? That album is equally balanced up to this date. Sit down and do the math. There's an even amount of "Rock" heavy songs and "Hip-hop" based songs. Hybrid Theory was divide that each song was 50% rock and 50% rap. But in reanimation that concept was taken to another level. Half the album was Rock and Half the album was Rap. And the rest of the band had input into this. They wouldn't just let him do this on his own, they are a band. Every band does have it's leader and the leader is usually the "core" essence of their sound, after that the additions come along and add more flavor to the mix.

Iron Maiden has Steve Harris and he's the bassist and you know without him you don't have Iron Maiden. Then they got Bruce Dickison another flavor to the mix and you have what they are now. They lost Bruce and virtually half the sound was gone.

Point is.. without Mike you have no linkin park, and without chester you don't have the "Brand" linkin park. Chester is what gave birth to them and the spotlight, Mike was the genius with the concept. So why stop with the concept?


Personally I want to hear what they come up with when they work as a unit. TLTGYA (IMO by far their greatest musical accomplishment and incidentally they had never done anything like it before) probably wouldn't have happened with their old system (It was built around Robs drum idea)

Oh the little things that give you away, hah... they can top that. They seriously can top that with their old sound. They can make a song like that with the same attributes of Bleed It Out and make it more epic. These guys are kings for that, why they stop? Oh yea... we gotta appeal the masses. You think this is going a step forward from a "technical" stand point probably but as for "Linkin Park" as them the sound their name what made them who they are today, this is a step backwards. This is all I am arguing. They can go and sound better on "paper" does not mean it equates to the same spirit and soul they once were.


Again, mission accomplished, even though they still incorporate different things into the music, it's not just rap/rock/electronica anymore and it's more subtle.

Mission not accomplished. Were you here when Reanimation debuted on these boards? There was nothing but trash talking. And it's not like Mike doesn't read the boards because back then people thought he didn't *now I know he does* but he read that shit and he probably felt there was no reason to ever use sound like that again. Because I NEVER saw something like Reanimation from them again. If anything I get "more linkin park" out of The Rising Tied than I did from M2M. The only thing The Rising Tied was lacking was a "chester" and instruments.


If Hybrid Theory was still their name then that would be the brand name:p

Keyword there, "IF" reality is "Linkin Park" is their brand name :).



Aye, he did and then he achieved that. Why beat a dead horse?


So there's a saying .. that goes.. "if it ain't broken don't fix it" why.. did they do a 180? Where's the "sound" where's the "spirit" because I do not HEAR IT.


In that some songs leaned to the ballad side, but as a whole the album is not based on BTH. Closest you'd get in "style" is LOATR

Ballads.. there ya ago. Masses like ballads it's a very popular structure. Why couldn't they give us some hip-hop / rock "power ballad" that would've been neat. Why not take it to the next level with that sound? And the whole album, yes is not "based" on Breaking The Habit, but the little things / sounds / structures / and arrangements were all taken from Breaking The Habit. It screams "Breaking The Habit" in taste, well their more "subtle" songs.

[MegaManX2]

The edge of having all song structures and lyrical themes almost identical?

Structure could be extended and strengthen, not "enhanced" or glamorized. I have no complains for the lyrics. This time around I was happy they change topics. Again, sorry if I didn't make it clear my argument are soley on "sound" meaning instruments vocal arrangement. Not lyrics.


If by anthem you mean catchy hooks(both vocal and musical) and lyrics that the masses can easily latch on to.

Yes, what's wrong with this? My ears like it. Metallica did it, so did hmm Iron Maiden, Faith No More, Megadeth. Here's one that up to this day their sound is distinctive they have change topics and they can change the structure but you know is "Them" when you hear them. Red Hot Chilli Peppers. My argument is the damn sound man.. I don't care about the lyrics because that was a plus on this album. It's the sound man, sound like a taste, you ever been eating doritoz for years and suddenly they decided to change the cheese flavoring because it was easier to manufacture and you realize they ARE NOT the same in flavoring. Well this is how I feel about Linkin Park. I'll still "listen" to it but it isn't as tasting as before. I've virtually replaced Linkin Park from music I like to listen because what they are trying to sound I already have other bands that can do it better than them. They were unique on their own ground, why the hell did they leave it?


Which of course they still do but bottom line, MTM is musically and lyrically superior and more diverse than it's predecessors. It's more challenging, it's more than just "pick it up and bang your head to it".

Again, on paper it looks good. Technically it "sounds good", but as their spirit as their sound that is a big NO.


Right, cause nothing from HT or Met was ever in a film...... oh wait..:eek:
POA, Numb, Session, Fig9... ring any bells??

What? I am talking about things I see in commercials and airplane music and you are talking about music videos? You lost me.


Hello!! They were already hugely popular, they have been since HT dropped. All the people could already relate to their music for reasons I've explained above, nothing really changed there.

Their core crowd yes, those being the emo kids and the teenagers lol. The rest of the world HATED Linkin Park. Where the hell have you been man?


Though I think "glamorized" would be the wrong word. Indie is what was "in" at the time and that definately crept into the music and production so I agree there's a bit of bandwagoning there. But remember the early '00's? rap/rock was in then so....

So what ever happen to staying loyal and true to yourself?


The fact that you thought they were already targeting a specific group should mean your just as insulted with the "old style" as with the "new"

No because I liked their sound even if it was targeted for a specific group. I didn't care, the music had soul. It drove me :) regardless that it was targeted for that crowd, I loved it. And many like me did so as well.



I'll re-state:
musically and lyrically MTM>>the rest of it.
MTM has a lot of HT style to it, it HAS been extended (again WID, BIO, NMS GU)

Given Up? That's all screaming really. Let's see what I can pull out of my library of comparison that sounds alike to that..
Oh yea Don't Stay. One Step Closer, A Place For My Head [remix without the rap part], it's really just the rock part on steroids. That stands out more like a regular rock song than a Linkin Park song. I'll stick with Megadeth - Good Mourning / Black Friday if I want something as crazy sounding and better composed.

No More Sorrow, same crap as Given up. If anything in structure those two are Identical.

Ahh Bleed It Out. This song felt just about right. Probably the only song I will say sounded like an extended them, sadly it's too damn short and repetitive. They could've definitely added more juice to it, oh wait a minute they do!!! In the live version of it :cool: why the hell couldn't they do that for the album.


And What I've Done? Haha.. don't make me go there. That was the biggest Somewhere I Belong / Numb / In The End knock off lol. And funny most of the songs lack the hip hop factor, again! Talk about "I like when the whole band works together" so.. hmm where's Mike? Where's Hahn?



But like they've said about the sound in general
"we took it as far as we could"

Cheap excuse. We've seen other bands carry their sound to extreme magnitudes. If this is the case then really what's left of what defined them? Because every band that becomes popular usually has something distinctive that makes them recognizable. You leave a piece of history for other musicians that say "Hey that was the band that did such and such" and later went on to influence "such and such"


I take issue with the word "original". I'm reminded that I agree with something a wise old LPUer said:
"Nothing is truly original" (paraphrase)
I agree Met = clone, but it was way over-produced and therefore "pretty".

You took that out of context. So I won't even validate it in this debate. Really my argument here is within their realms, like I stated earlier. Not within the rest of the music realm when I said "original".


As long as they play from their hearts and do what they want to do (as much as you can when you have 6 opinions to accomodate), then it's all cool with me whether I end up liking the music or not.

Play to their hearts content? Hmm suddenly I forgot what was the point of producing and album and me spending my cash to approve and thank them for playing something that not only their heart feel content but others as well.


I think of it this way:
LP started a journey, they got on a buss with some fans headed towards a particular destination. Some people realized they were on the wrong bus and got off, after a time others started to dislike the buss and got off. Still the rest of us continued along with LP and eventually when LP's stop came many of us got off the buss with them to tread new ground and explore the horizons. Others, whether they fell asleep or their seat was so comfortable they didn't want to leave, stayed on the bus....
some people even got off the buss but when they saw the destination they jumped back on the buss and roard at the buss driver "Get me the fuck outa here dude!"

Good stuff. That's how I vision it. That's what I am sad about. They got off the bus because they felt it was the "wrong" bus. In fact, it was the correct bus. But people didn't feel correct started getting off, Linkin Park started feeling their journey no longer had a purpose and suddenly the bus got packed again with some new kids and they enjoy these new kids so much they really decide to make the journey different.

Like I said earlier, if Reanimation would've been more appreciated. This discussion probably wouldn't be happening right now.

And if you thought that was long, you should've been here 4 years ago lol.

[MegaManX2]

The fact about life is that you can't stop changes from happening, and unfortunately things you might like is going to change too sometimes. It's sad that LP changed style, but it would be more sad if they've stopped making music as I see it. Maybe the change is because of business, or maybe they really wanted to try something new, despite they've known that many of their fans wouldn't be glad with these changes...But we'll never know for sure which one of these two options that's the true one (Just like, did U.S.A. went to Iraq because of Oil or to get rid of Saddam Hussein, that's another discussion:))

You are right.

But in my opinion, I trully believe that LP has grown tired of making the same type of music. Meteora and Hybrid Theory sound very much as each other, and sometimes you've to try something new in your life.


Not asking for a rehash. Just for that "sound" to carry over more extended. Of course new topic like Minutes to Midnight but it needs that Linkin Park flavoring because I just don't taste it.


LP has always been a band who love experimenting with music, that was why they started with combining metal and rap in the first place, to do something new even though many said "This will never be a success".

Of course! SO why did they stop experimenting on that department?

If Hybrid Theory was the original concept, and Reanimation was the "future" and Meteora was just going a step backwards, can you truly say they experimented and succeeded?

Actually they're still the same band as before, the band who loves to experiment their music competence and see what the outcome will be when they're finished with the recording.

hmm.... I'll probably get shot for this one by the masses of LP fans, but if that were the case, Meteora would've never happened.

Again..
Hybrid Theory 18 year old kid
Reanimation 22 year old kid
Meteora 16 year old kid. How the hell do you go back to doing something like that?



Actually, this can't be compared with things like changing your "Skin colour". Music is LP's work, and imagine if you've a work where you would do the same thing over and over again.

I'll stop you right here. You shouldn't be a musician... period. If it becomes work, you no longer have the spirit to write music. You are producing a product just to feed your kids. You are not writing music that comes from the soul. I rest my case.


IMO it's more fun to cross new borders and try something new. Only if you do that you can see things in more different ways.

I totally agree with you, but why did they stop? They never took it to the next level. We as fans shut them up. Everything they've done so far in terms of albums, they have listen to every damn complain as fans. Up to this part I'll give linkin park respect because after Meteora all they do is listen to their fans. This is why M2M was given birth.

And maybe someday LP will try to go back to the HT style for fun, and get the feeling of "This were where the whole thing started".

Cheers on that concept album.


I don't know about you, but I like to see life in more than one way, and be able to choose my own path instead of having people telling me how I should stay and be.


So why did they stop =/. Again. Meteora doesn't even count. It is a blatant clone of Hybrid Theory, Reanimation was better than Meteora and it was a remix album! Why couldn't they apply the same concept for a whole new album? Why can't we get 20 songs instead of the usual 13. Why can't we get songs that clock 4-6 mins instead of the usual 3-5min. *and not Leave Out All the Rest that is not an excuse lol that's one song after 4 years*



You should do what that feels right in your heart...Yeah, I was raised in an certain way, but that doesn't mean I can't change my path and discover new things, even though some might start to dislike me because I'm changing a bit.

Of course but the case is that Linkin Park is changing because they are being told so. You literally cannot buy what they say on camera sometimes, and there's been times where some band members of this band have said something and something else has happen differently. I only believe what's "printed" which is their music, that's the only thing that really talks for them. And so far I see a band that is just controlled on their sound and it would be nice to see it being unleashed like it was on that remix album. It is very sad that this is the only thing we have as fans to show us what Linkin Park could've been.

But all that makes us human is to do what's within our Hearts. and the same thing for music. Make music with the heart, that gives so much soul too it.

Right.. but sometimes the human factor and hearts part is taken away when you have a contract and some money in your face =\.

If I should choose how their next album should be like, then it should have some of the darker influence from Hybrid Theory EP songs like "Part of Me", "Carousel" and "And One" and at the same time have all the instrumental soul of Reanimation, Hybrid Theory and Meteora.

See and why are you saying this? Because you felt it. You felt that same thing I am talking about!

But again...LP should just do what they like, it's nice to see they're still having fun and are happy with what they're doing. Meh.. with this whole "do what they like" if they were doing what they like , Meteora again would've never.. ever happened. Don't believe me? Go watch the DVD documentary while they were making it... producer making you do a lyric 100+ times? What about that kick ass drum song Rob was cookin up.. canned never seen in Meteora.


People should just stop complaining and enjoy that LP has been making music for a decade and still enjoy it. LP will properly be in the music industry as long as Metallica if they keep experimenting :)

We gotta complain. We are humans, like you said, we have heart. And if they have hearts too they should appreciate our constructive criticism.

Poor Metallica, too bad their name will never be the same after the napster incident, and now trying to hoe their fans with the super down quality album release while their Guitar Hero counterpart has much better quality. -_-.

I want Linkin Park to be as epic as Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden I don't know how they did it, but their shit still sounds as straight fiyah as it did years ago. I'd like for Linkin Park to do the same. I don't want to see them as some band that at some point just gives up on striving to out do themselves and just conforms to the norm.

Metallica's last album is another insult to their old sound. And that's sad really that their previous shit sounds better than their new shit.

And I am sorry I keep using Iron Maiden, but after I heard "A Matter of Life and Death" which was 2006, that album was pretty neat. I mean yea their songs won't be as epic as "Seventh Son of the Seventh" or "The Trooper" or "The Evil That Men Do" but you can still see they are their full fledge just matured.

And there are other bands as well that have matured their sound. Some were just too good and disbanded because sometimes you do reach a limit, but don't give up if you haven't. I know LP still has some juice in them.

[Pac]

Megaman knows his shit.

[MegaManX2]

Megaman knows his shit.

lol thanks Pac, you the shit ;) \m/