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MarathonMan
01-12-2008, 08:47 AM
I was on youtube one day listning to a xero song when I saw a comment that they had a concert a long time ago. I don't if it's true so if you have any history or links about it, or even think it's not true, go ahead and post. When I tried to find the vid it was gone. I believe the user said they played these songs.

Rhinestone
Under Attack
Vertical Limits
Super Xero
Reading My Eyes
Esaul (I can't remember if he posted this)
Stick n' Move
The Untitled
Fuse

MarathonMan
01-12-2008, 09:10 AM
I was on youtube one day listning to a xero song when I saw a comment that they had a concert a long time ago. I don't if it's true so if you have any history or links about it, or even think it's not true, go ahead and post. When I tried to find the vid it was gone. I believe the user said they played these songs.

Rhinestone
Under Attack
Vertical Points
Super Xero
Reading My Eyes
Esaul (I can't remember if he out this)
Stick n' Move
The Untitled
Fuse

My bad. I meant to say that I don't know if this is true.

Aphelion
01-12-2008, 09:45 AM
Xero played quite a few concerts, I even know a couple people who saw them play shows in the Los Angeles area back in 1996/1997. I know they played 2 shows at the Whiskey-a-Go-Go, one opening for System of a Down (who were also unsigned at that point), and one opening for Cypress Hill. They also played at the Lynus Brook Club, and I believe they played The Roxy as well.

As far as the setlist though, there's a long-rumored Xero live video recording from one of their shows at the Lynus Brook Club in '97, and this is the supposed setlist:

01-Rhinestone
02-The Team
03-Reading My Eyes
04-Untitled
05-Explode
06-Rhinestone (part two)
07-Now I See
08-Fuse

However, I HIGHLY doubt that that's true, because if Now I See (With You) and Untitled (In the End) were written in the Xero days, Mark Wakefield's name should have been in the songwriting credits like it is for A Place for My Head (Esaul), Forgotten (Rhinestone), and Runaway (Guitar riff came from Stick N' Move), but it's not.

Whoever gave you that setlist must not have very good information, because "Under Attack" is nothing more than the title of a fake LP bootleg album, and "Vertical Limit" is a name commonly associated with one of the Points of Authority demos, but it actually never had that name.

MarathonMan
01-12-2008, 11:02 AM
Xero played quite a few concerts, I even know a couple people who saw them play shows in the Los Angeles area back in 1996/1997. I know they played 2 shows at the Whiskey-a-Go-Go, one opening for System of a Down (who were also unsigned at that point), and one opening for Cypress Hill. They also played at the Lynus Brook Club, and I believe they played The Roxy as well.

As far as the setlist though, there's a long-rumored Xero live video recording from one of their shows at the Lynus Brook Club in '97, and this is the supposed setlist:

01-Rhinestone
02-The Team
03-Reading My Eyes
04-Untitled
05-Explode
06-Rhinestone (part two)
07-Now I See
08-Fuse

However, I HIGHLY doubt that that's true, because if Now I See (With You) and Untitled (In the End) were written in the Xero days, Mark Wakefield's name should have been in the songwriting credits like it is for A Place for My Head (Esaul), Forgotten (Rhinestone), and Runaway (Guitar riff came from Stick N' Move), but it's not.

Whoever gave you that setlist must not have very good information, because "Under Attack" is nothing more than the title of a fake LP bootleg album, and "Vertical Limit" is a name commonly associated with one of the Points of Authority demos, but it actually never had that name.

Okay. thanks for posting. Btw, there's a user on youtube who put the Crawling demo as Under Attack.

MarathonMan
01-12-2008, 11:05 AM
And I meant Vertical limits on my first post. My Bad

MarathonMan
01-12-2008, 12:50 PM
And does anybody have an idea of where I can get a Xero demo
tape? I'm pretty sure that some went out to the LP street team.
So if you know a website that sells it (other than ebay), please
post. And if you know the price, post that too.

WookieBastard
01-12-2008, 01:33 PM
And does anybody have an idea of where I can get a Xero demo
tape? I'm pretty sure that some went out to the LP street team.
So if you know a website that sells it (other than ebay), please
post. And if you know the price, post that too.

if you find it for sale, it'll be expensive for sure. just settle with the mp3s.

tpbarbosa
01-12-2008, 01:38 PM
I heard Xero used to play in small places
Like Aphelion said I don't believe those songs were created at Xero time...
Cause if they were Mark Wakefield'd have his name on credits

MarathonMan
01-12-2008, 02:00 PM
Okay. Thanks for the info. If anybody finds a video or something,
go ahead and tell me the link or post me the link. So far I have
not found anything on youtube, so I'm guessing these vids are
rare if there are any.

WookieBastard
01-12-2008, 04:40 PM
Okay. Thanks for the info. If anybody finds a video or something,
go ahead and tell me the link or post me the link. So far I have
not found anything on youtube, so I'm guessing these vids are
rare if there are any.

Aphelion said in one of these threads that theres a supposed recording of that show... but i've never seen or heard anyone say more than just that.

There are good quality video and audio bootlegs of System of a Down from those times in the Whisky a Go-Go. I've downloaded one i was able to get to see if there was any hint regarding Xero, if they're mentioned or something... but no. However, i'm sure someone must taped the Xero shows, at least one.

MarathonMan
01-12-2008, 08:43 PM
Thank You. If you get more any info please tell me.

NoFace
01-12-2008, 09:50 PM
There's no Xero video bootleg surfaced till now. The setlist above is just a rumor and what Aphelion said.

Xero had played quite many shows according to some old interviews with the band back in 2001 and they got signed with Zomba Music at their first show The Whiskey.

It's nearly impossible to have a Xero tape. It's like 3 or 4 people got that tape? Jon and Jeane, Nick Kramar and maybe Simon/Energy? I don't know.

SergSlim
01-12-2008, 11:42 PM
There are 3 different rips of the tape.
First one - mp3 - don't know who ripped it
Second - mp3 - 2006th LPFuse ReRip
Third - FLAC - 2007 nkramar ReRip

I think that tape has more than 3 or 4 people, you just might not know about it.
3 or 4 might have Sean Dowdell and his Friends Tape.

WookieBastard
01-13-2008, 05:33 AM
the lpfuse rips sound weird.... the FLAC rips are "gettable" somewhere?

MarathonMan
01-13-2008, 09:09 AM
Okay. I just got two qustions. 1: Has anybody seen a video with
Mark Wakefield, cause I have never seen him in my entire life?
2: Does anybody have a video of Kyle Christener? I've seen one
video with him in it but I couldn't get a good look at him cause
Brad kept getting in the way.

Aphelion
01-13-2008, 10:58 PM
There's no Xero video bootleg surfaced till now. The setlist above is just a rumor and what Aphelion said.

Xero had played quite many shows according to some old interviews with the band back in 2001 and they got signed with Zomba Music at their first show The Whiskey.

It's nearly impossible to have a Xero tape. It's like 3 or 4 people got that tape? Jon and Jeane, Nick Kramar and maybe Simon/Energy? I don't know.

Xero supposedly made around 500 copies of their demo tape (the first few were actually made with a different cover, it was a closeup picture of a shopping cart), one of the people I talked to who saw them live (and also has a copy of the tape) said that they literally had stacks of them just sitting at their merch table.

As far as recordings go, there is a proshot video recording of a System of a Down show at the Whiskey from one of the shows where Xero opened for them, but as far as I know Xero's performance wasn't recorded.

Okay. I just got two qustions. 1: Has anybody seen a video with
Mark Wakefield, cause I have never seen him in my entire life?
2: Does anybody have a video of Kyle Christener? I've seen one
video with him in it but I couldn't get a good look at him cause
Brad kept getting in the way.

I don't think there's a video of either of them. The "Jammin' with Hybrid Theory" video on Youtube has a different bass player in it, but I think that's actually just Scott Koziol when he was a bit skinnier and before he shaved his head, because I've seen other live pictures of Scott where he was playing the same bass that guy had in the video.

NoFace
01-14-2008, 04:30 AM
Xero supposedly made around 500 copies of their demo tape (the first few were actually made with a different cover, it was a closeup picture of a shopping cart), one of the people I talked to who saw them live (and also has a copy of the tape) said that they literally had stacks of them just sitting at their merch table.

As far as recordings go, there is a proshot video recording of a System of a Down show at the Whiskey from one of the shows where Xero opened for them, but as far as I know Xero's performance wasn't recorded.



I don't think there's a video of either of them. The "Jammin' with Hybrid Theory" video on Youtube has a different bass player in it, but I think that's actually just Scott Koziol when he was a bit skinnier and before he shaved his head, because I've seen other live pictures of Scott where he was playing the same bass that guy had in the video.

LOL 500 copies? How surprised cause I just seen/heard some people said that they got it. Maybe the ones who have it don't really know its value.

The bassist in Jammin' with HT looked so much different then the pics of Scott Koziol I have. I wonder if he maybe a different guy?

SergSlim
01-14-2008, 07:11 AM
the lpfuse rips sound weird.... the FLAC rips are "gettable" somewhere?

I have them.
They were on torrent for some time, but only 99.6% was available, and than that torrent got deleted.

I got it from other source full. It's not there anymore.

MarathonMan
01-14-2008, 02:27 PM
Xero supposedly made around 500 copies of their demo tape (the first few were actually made with a different cover, it was a closeup picture of a shopping cart), one of the people I talked to who saw them live (and also has a copy of the tape) said that they literally had stacks of them just sitting at their merch table.

As far as recordings go, there is a proshot video recording of a System of a Down show at the Whiskey from one of the shows where Xero opened for them, but as far as I know Xero's performance wasn't recorded.



I don't think there's a video of either of them. The "Jammin' with Hybrid Theory" video on Youtube has a different bass player in it, but I think that's actually just Scott Koziol when he was a bit skinnier and before he shaved his head, because I've seen other live pictures of Scott where he was playing the same bass that guy had in the video.

I'm pretty sure that was Kyle in the Jammin with HT. That's the
one I was talking about. From the looks of it, Scott was much
taller and older than the bassist in the vid. And also I think
Scott looked a lot uglier than Kyle, even though i couldn't see
his face.