Thoughts on Depression/Medications

[Temperance]

So I took this idea from a thread discussing cutting, which morphed into depression/clinical depression.

What are your thoughts on medicines prescribed for clinical depression, bi-polar, OCD, etc? Are they just happy pills, or do they change peoples lives?

My opinion is that they can be life-saving. I have been diagnosed as clinically depressed (among other things) and was prescribed anti-depressents. They saved my life. I was basically just existing, and floating between being angry/crying/sleeping for days/irritable etc. The pills don't make me numb, I can still feel happiness and sadness. They just balance everything out.

Thoughts...?

[tpbarbosa]

I think medications don't let us numb...
They (like you said) make us reach a balance
I feel really sad but I've never gone to a therapist
So I never used these medications.
But I guess they really can change ppl life

[Rocksquirrel]

I know a few people who have depressions or had depressions.
One of them is taking now the "happy pills". It's a good thing and like Temperance said, it helps him.

I never had depressions. I asked him about it and he explained me everything, it's very bad. You feel like everything you are doing is wrong, having less confidence, feeling not able to feel happy or only to smile.

He felt sad many times for no real reason, even when it was only a little thing, it really made him down. Being optimistic or concentrating on different things was difficult. It's pretty hard to give that person a good feeling. He was sleeping much *being sad/down* only to not to think about how bad he is, how much he is wasting life, not being social and much more.

In that stage not the talking with the psychiatrist helps so much, you need the medications too.

It changed a lot with the pills. He's feeling now more happy, having more confidence. And he's smiling now :)

It's still important, in my opinion, to go to a psychiatrist and still talk to him/her about it because you can't live forever on pills, it's kinda a fake happiness. Pills are good and without them those people can't "solve" the depression, never. I don't know if it's even possible to solve it but it helps very much.

[Kimberlys]

i had/have depressions, but i dont go on any medications, because i'm so afraid that i wont be accepted for the person who i am. so i am afriad for medications and if people finding it out.

[Rocksquirrel]

i had/have depressions, but i dont go on any medications, because i'm so afraid that i wont be accepted for the person who i am. so i am afriad for medications and if people finding it out.

I don't know how bad is your depression :) sometimes it's enough to visit a psychiatrist and to talk to him, but I'm not an expert.

And if those persons are your friends, family etc. they will accept it because it helps you and makes you feel better.

[Temperance]

I tried going to a therapist before I got started on medication. It didn't really work for me. It felt like it was all "picture yourself in a happy place, and breathe deeply." And she gave me tips on how to calm myself down in situations. They just made it worse. I'm sure I just didn't find the right therapist for me, and I may try again in the future. I think a combination of the two is the best possible therapy.
I never had depression as a teenager. I mean, of course I would get moody and angry and sad, but it was always something that never lasted very long. A lot of stuff happened to me over the summer that really brought my depression to a low, low point. I think I've had a mild case of it for the last few years, but I'm a huge procrastinator, so I always put off going to the doctor. I also have an eating disorder (which I am now in a somewhat recovery of), so I tend to run the other direction from doctors.

[WookieBastard]

well, my mother is a psychiatrist and she always say that medications are a way to keep the patient stable for a while. To gain some time while she tries to figure out what's wrong with the person's source of the depression and stuff like that. Like for example, depression may have different sources...one being the "enviroment" around the patient, that depression being consequence of a dissfunctional family, low self esteem and stuff like that... but also, many times depression is often related to the lack of certain hormones or vitamins or stuff like that.

The fact of depression being consequence of some hormonal disorder is what makes psychologists uneffective. There's always this neverending conflict between psychiatrists and psychologists... psychologists say psychiatrists are just the same but they can prescribe medicines, but i dont see it like that. For what i know, psychologists base their approach to the patient from a freudian point of view (not always, but most of the time) and freud is more than just obsolete nowadays. It's a nice theory, but in practice is not that effective. Psychiatrist in the other had try finding the reason why the patient is depressed, considering how does the individual is affected by the social and economical (specially here in south america, pretty much all suicides are because of economical reasons) medium.

Depression won't be healed by medications, they'll help you. But that's just it. I've been really depressed in the past for long periods of time, because of certain abrupt changes in my life in which i was kind of overwhelmed by the choices i had to make back then. But never considered medication as an option.

[Temperance]

i had/have depressions, but i dont go on any medications, because i'm so afraid that i wont be accepted for the person who i am. so i am afriad for medications and if people finding it out.

No one ever has to know what medication you're taking. If it is an issue with your parents, I would hope that they would understand. And you don't even have to go to a psychiatrist. I just went to my general physician, and she handled everything from there.

[Temperance]

For what i know, psychologists base their approach to the patient from a freudian point of view (not always, but most of the time) and freud is more than just obsolete nowadays. It's a nice theory, but in practice is not that effective. Psychiatrist in the other had try finding the reason why the patient is depressed, considering how does the individual is affected by the social and economical...


That could explain why I didn't click with my therapist. That's an interesting point of view.

[Rocksquirrel]

I tried going to a therapist before I got started on medication. It didn't really work for me. It felt like it was all "picture yourself in a happy place, and breathe deeply." And she gave me tips on how to calm myself down in situations. They just made it worse. I'm sure I just didn't find the right therapist for me, and I may try again in the future. I think a combination of the two is the best possible therapy.
I never had depression as a teenager. I mean, of course I would get moody and angry and sad, but it was always something that never lasted very long. A lot of stuff happened to me over the summer that really brought my depression to a low, low point. I think I've had a mild case of it for the last few years, but I'm a huge procrastinator, so I always put off going to the doctor. I also have an eating disorder (which I am now in a somewhat recovery of), so I tend to run the other direction from doctors.

It's very important to find the right therapist because many suck, and I really mean it so.

And I guess the best is really both. Therapist and pills. Because I think one day you could get dependent on pills and so you will never see what went wrong.

But you will probably take the pills long until you can get off of them. And it takes time.

But I'M NOT AN EXPERT. JUST EXPERIENCES.

[Rocksquirrel]

well, my mother is a psychiatrist and she always say that medications are a way to keep the patient stable for a while. To gain some time while she tries to figure out what's wrong with the person's source of the depression and stuff like that. Like for example, depression may have different sources...one being the "enviroment" around the patient, that depression being consequence of a dissfunctional family, low self esteem and stuff like that... but also, many times depression is often related to the lack of certain hormones or vitamins or stuff like that.

The fact of depression being consequence of some hormonal disorder is what makes psychologists uneffective. There's always this neverending conflict between psychiatrists and psychologists... psychologists say psychiatrists are just the same but they can prescribe medicines, but i dont see it like that. For what i know, psychologists base their approach to the patient from a freudian point of view (not always, but most of the time) and freud is more than just obsolete nowadays. It's a nice theory, but in practice is not that effective. Psychiatrist in the other had try finding the reason why the patient is depressed, considering how does the individual is affected by the social and economical (specially here in south america, pretty much all suicides are because of economical reasons) medium.

Depression won't be healed by medications, they'll help you. But that's just it. I've been really depressed in the past for long periods of time, because of certain abrupt changes in my life in which i was kind of overwhelmed by the choices i had to make back then. But never considered medication as an option.

Exactly what I think. Pills aren't the solution.

[Temperance]

It's very important to find the right therapist because many suck, and I really mean it so.

And I guess the best is really both. Therapist and pills. Because I think one day you could get dependent on pills and so you will never see what went wrong.

But you will probably take the pills long until you can get off of them. And it takes time.

But I'M NOT AN EXPERT. JUST EXPERIENCES.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who are dependent on the medication. There is the risk of that in amy medication. The dose that I have is very small (20mg), it's one dose above the introductory level. But it has made a huge difference.

[Rocksquirrel]

I'm sure there are plenty of people who are dependent on the medication. There is the risk of that in amy medication. The dose that I have is very small (20mg), it's one dose above the introductory level. But it has made a huge difference.

I know. And Yes :) it's good when it helps you ^^. But I still think it's not right to take them without the control of a psychiatrist, it's really just a half solution. It doesn't solve the whole beginning of the depression, the problem itself.

No offensive.

[Angiepantalones]

SSRIs have saved my life.

[Kimberlys]

I don't know how bad is your depression :) sometimes it's enough to visit a psychiatrist and to talk to him, but I'm not an expert.

And if those persons are your friends, family etc. they will accept it because it helps you and makes you feel better.

No one ever has to know what medication you're taking. If it is an issue with your parents, I would hope that they would understand. And you don't even have to go to a psychiatrist. I just went to my general physician, and she handled everything from there.

i am waay to afriad to tell it, and since i been trough cutting and suicide thoughts, because agian i'm afraid that they will put me into hospital and stuff.
but when i told my best friend, she took it nice. for some reason she had always knew it.

[tpbarbosa]

Exactly what I think. Pills aren't the solution.

you're right
you have to change your way
Even though do it by yourself it's really hard
But I guess that pills just are half way
The rest we have to walk by our own

[Rocksquirrel]

i am waay to afriad to tell it, and since i been trough cutting and suicide thoughts, because agian i'm afraid that they will put me into hospital and stuff.
but when i told my best friend, she took it nice. for some reason she had always knew it.

Do you still feel so bad? And do you go to a psychiatrist? Maybe you don't need pills :)

[Rocksquirrel]

you're right
you have to change your way
Even though do it by yourself it's really hard
But I guess that pills just are half way
The rest we have to walk by our own

Sometimes it's just stopping to think bad the own personality and so on.

It's the best when you have somebody else *close friend, family* while this time when you visit a psychiatrist and later taking the pills.

[Temperance]

I know. And Yes :) it's good when it helps you ^^. But I still think it's not right to take them without the control of a psychiatrist, it's really just a half solution. It doesn't solve the whole beginning of the depression, the problem itself.

No offensive.

No offense taken. :)

I totally agree that no one should take the medication without the supervision of a doctor.

SSRIs have saved my life.

Me too.

you're right
you have to change your way
Even though do it by yourself it's really hard
But I guess that pills just are half way
The rest we have to walk by our own

Again, agreed. In my situation there was no way I could even begin to sort out the problem until I was on the medication. I couldn't even see past feeling so out of control to begin to figure out what was wrong.

i am waay to afriad to tell it, and since i been trough cutting and suicide thoughts, because agian i'm afraid that they will put me into hospital and stuff.
but when i told my best friend, she took it nice. for some reason she had always knew it.

I'm glad you're friend took it well. You don't have to tell your parents about everything. How old are you? In most states (not sure where you're from) there are doctor/patient confidentiality laws that keep all info between you and your doctor. I think you should give it a try (even if you have to involve your parents). It is a much better option than hospital IP.

[Kimberlys]

Do you still feel so bad? And do you go to a psychiatrist? Maybe you don't need pills :)


I'm glad you're friend took it well. You don't have to tell your parents about everything. How old are you? In most states (not sure where you're from) there are doctor/patient confidentiality laws that keep all info between you and your doctor. I think you should give it a try (even if you have to involve your parents). It is a much better option than hospital IP.

i'm more Healtyer than i were this summer, thats for sure.
but i acutally never been to a psyciatrist..

i am 15 in 8 days, and from norway.
if it gets worse, i'll probably talk to the schoolsister

[tpbarbosa]

Sometimes it's just stopping to think bad the own personality and so on.

It's the best when you have somebody else *close friend, family* while this time when you visit a psychiatrist and later taking the pills.

I don't have any of them :(

[Rocksquirrel]

I don't have any of them :(

do you go to a psychiatrist? because I don't think you are depressed ^^

[Rocksquirrel]

i'm more Healtyer than i were this summer, thats for sure.
but i acutally never been to a psyciatrist..

i am 15 in 8 days, and from norway.
if it gets worse, i'll probably talk to the schoolsister

Maybe you should go to one and talk :)

and maybe the dark time now *winter* makes it even more worse. Do you have in Norway less sun hours like in Finland? Because less sun can make you depressed too =/

[tpbarbosa]

do you go to a psychiatrist? because I don't think you are depressed ^^

no
I hide it pretty well
Actually no one knows :(

[Rocksquirrel]

no
I hide it pretty well
Actually no one knows :(

hmmm =/ Well, how do you feel all the time?

[shattered_pieces]

DAMN. i was gonna start this thread! :(
i feel depressed just seeing this..sorry..

[Temperance]

no
I hide it pretty well
Actually no one knows :(

I know how you feel. My hubby had no idea until I finally couldn't take it anymore and started looking stuff up online. He was like "why do you think you're depressed/have anxiety?" So I had to explain everything to him. He had known I wasn't happy, but didn't understand that it was as bad as it was.

[Kimberlys]

Maybe you should go to one and talk :)

and maybe the dark time now *winter* makes it even more worse. Do you have in Norway less sun hours like in Finland? Because less sun can make you depressed too =/

i like the dark, but we have the sun for like 9 hours pr day.
but i think all started in second grade, and then my grandfather died 5 years ago, and then my grandmother and uncle for 4 months ago, and i aint over my grandfather yet. so thats probably the worst thing.

[shattered_pieces]

great. and everyone's ignoring me too.
awesome day.
awesome boards.

[Kimberlys]

great. and everyone's ignoring me too.
awesome day.
awesome boards.

sorry :(
whats up ?

[shattered_pieces]

it's ok i wasn't talking about you. but thnx for noticing me :)
suicide thoughts are up.
back again.

[Rocksquirrel]

i like the dark, but we have the sun for like 9 hours pr day.
but i think all started in second grade, and then my grandfather died 5 years ago, and then my grandmother and uncle for 4 months ago, and i aint over my grandfather yet. so thats probably the worst thing.

so you have that long =/ I would go to a psychologist because he/she could probably help you to live with it on a stage where you don't feel so down and sad anymore. And don't be afraid of it ^^ I promise you, you will feel better. :)

and shattered_pieces I see you :p

[Rocksquirrel]

it's ok i wasn't talking about you. but thnx for noticing me :)
suicide thoughts are up.
back again.

why suicide? since when do you think so?


I'm sorry when I look too smart ass like.

[Kimberlys]

so you have that long =/ I would go to a psychologist because he/she could probably help you to live with it on a stage where you don't feel so down and sad anymore. And don't be afraid of it ^^ I promise you, you will feel better. :)

and shattered_pieces I see you :p

yeah, but i always starting to cry, lol.

[tpbarbosa]

hmmm =/ Well, how do you feel all the time?
lost. sad. confused.
I know how you feel. My hubby had no idea until I finally couldn't take it anymore and started looking stuff up online. He was like "why do you think you're depressed/have anxiety?" So I had to explain everything to him. He had known I wasn't happy, but didn't understand that it was as bad as it was.
No one knows what I really feel here
Sometimes I just pretend it's fine that nothing is wrong
But when somehting bad happens I start to get sad and sad
Sometimes I can't even stop with some thoughts

Yeah shattered_pieces same here these thoughts never go away

[Rocksquirrel]

yeah, but i always starting to cry, lol.

it expresses how you feel and it's okay :) Crying helps...

[shattered_pieces]

and shattered_pieces I see you :p

thankies Sandra (that's your name right?)

[Rocksquirrel]

lost. sad. confused.

No one knows what I really feel here
Sometimes I just pretend it's fine that nothing is wrong
But when somehting bad happens I start to get sad and sad
Sometimes I can't even stop with some thoughts

Yeah shattered_pieces same here these thoughts never go away

oh dear :( when did it start? Maybe it's just that age :)

[shattered_pieces]

and shattered_pieces I see you :p

thankies Sandra (that's your name right?)
i just had these suicide thoughts coupla years ago when it was the start of my depression..then i decided to let it go coz it's not so smart to kill myself.
now.. i really wanna die. i'm not gonna kill myself or anything but i can't stop the thoughts.. always thinking of ways to kill myself. i'm just really down.

[Rocksquirrel]

thankies Sandra (that's your name right?)
i just had these suicide thoughts coupla years ago when it was the start of my depression..then i decided to let it go coz it's not so smart to kill myself.
now.. i really wanna die. i'm not gonna kill myself or anything but i can't stop the thoughts.. always thinking of ways to kill myself. i'm just really down.

it's my name xD where do you know it? :p
and what's your name?

What happened so bad now that you want to die? and what happened when your depressions started?

[Kimberlys]

lost. sad. confused.

No one knows what I really feel here
Sometimes I just pretend it's fine that nothing is wrong
But when somehting bad happens I start to get sad and sad
Sometimes I can't even stop with some thoughts

Yeah shattered_pieces same here these thoughts never go away

i aslo have thouse thoughts, i pretending everything is fine, but when i'm looking back at the day, i just want to end it all.
just be myself. aslo, when something bad has happend at school, like ditching (its like no one cares about you anymore, and find new friends) i just become sad, and wont talk to anyone, my friend, Nicole is the one person who always see if i'm sad or so. but its hard.

[Temperance]

thankies Sandra (that's your name right?)
i just had these suicide thoughts coupla years ago when it was the start of my depression..then i decided to let it go coz it's not so smart to kill myself.
now.. i really wanna die. i'm not gonna kill myself or anything but i can't stop the thoughts.. always thinking of ways to kill myself. i'm just really down.

Has there been anything traumatic you can pinpoint that has happened recently? I'm not the best person to give advice on suicide, as I've never felt the need. there must be something that has happened recently that makes it seem more prominent in your mind.

[shattered_pieces]

lost. sad. confused.

No one knows what I really feel here
Sometimes I just pretend it's fine that nothing is wrong
But when somehting bad happens I start to get sad and sad
Sometimes I can't even stop with some thoughts

Yeah shattered_pieces same here these thoughts never go away


you can call me Lulu:) you're 15 right? when did your depression start?

and to Sandra and Temperance (dunno your real name). no i didn't have any traumatic events in my life. that's why it's complicated. and i KNOW i should not be depressed..but i just can't help it..i feel so bad all the time. even when i'm smiling and laughing.

[Temperance]

I don't want you all to think I'm ignoring you, but I have to get offline for a bit. I actually have to do some work while I'm here, lol. Be back soon... :)

[Rocksquirrel]

I don't want you all to think I'm ignoring you, but I have to get offline for a bit. I actually have to do some work while I'm here, lol. Be back soon... :)

See you later :)

[shattered_pieces]

I don't want you all to think I'm ignoring you, but I have to get offline for a bit. I actually have to do some work while I'm here, lol. Be back soon... :)

bye =D talk to you tomorrow coz mom freaked out when i told her i screwed up in maths exam and now i gotta study harder..or somethin..

[tpbarbosa]

oh dear :( when did it start? Maybe it's just that age :)
12/13 years old
I hope so

i aslo have thouse thoughts, i pretending everything is fine, but when i'm looking back at the day, i just want to end it all.
just be myself. aslo, when something bad has happend at school, like ditching (its like no one cares about you anymore, and find new friends) i just become sad, and wont talk to anyone, my friend, Nicole is the one person who always see if i'm sad or so. but its hard.
I just fake that everything is ok
But in the end of the day I see that my life is just fake
I'm so numb that I can't realize what I made...
you can call me Lulu:) you're 15 right? when did your depression start?

and to Sandra and Temperance (dunno your real name). no i didn't have any traumatic events in my life. that's why it's complicated. and i KNOW i should not be depressed..but i just can't help it..i feel so bad all the time. even when i'm smiling and laughing.
Nice to meet you Lulu
yes I'm 15 it started when I was 12/13 years old
You can call me nicole or talytha (my real name)

[Rocksquirrel]

12/13 years old
I hope so


I just fake that everything is ok
But in the end of the day I see that my life is just fake
I'm so numb that I can't realize what I made...



What happened when you were 12/13 ? and does still feels so bad?
I'm sorry to hear that :(

[shattered_pieces]

i aslo have thouse thoughts, i pretending everything is fine, but when i'm looking back at the day, i just want to end it all.
just be myself. aslo, when something bad has happend at school, like ditching (its like no one cares about you anymore, and find new friends) i just become sad, and wont talk to anyone, my friend, Nicole is the one person who always see if i'm sad or so. but its hard.

yeah don't let me get started bout people in skool...
God, are there no loyal friends left in this place?

[shattered_pieces]

I just fake that everything is ok
But in the end of the day I see that my life is just fake
I'm so numb that I can't realize what I made...
same here. it's like you're talking about me.

Nice to meet you Lulu
yes I'm 15 it started when I was 12/13 years old
You can call me nicole or talytha (my real name)

hey Nicole\ Talytha :) nice names you got!
it started when i was 12\13 years old too!

[Liquorice]

Wow I wish I could hug you all and make things better for you.

My brother suffers from psychosis which causes his panic attacks and one of my good friends has Bi-Polar. When she's on her meds she's such an awesome person, but then she thinks she's fine and comes off them and she's not the same wonderful person. It's really hard to watch two people I love to bits suffer like this.

I feel sad sometimes (there a reason for that), but not in the way you guys obviously do, I wish I could make it go away for you all.

[blueeye]

My opinion is that they can be life-saving.
I agree with you.

I can`t speak from my own personal experience because i don`t have it, but i think the best thing is to tell someone about how you feel and get help. It is embarrassing and scary but in the end it is worth it, if that makes you get better and realize you are not in this alone.

[tpbarbosa]

hey Nicole\ Talytha :) nice names you got!
it started when i was 12\13 years old too!

thank u
I also loved your's
that's sad to know :(

What happened when you were 12/13 ? and does still feels so bad?
I'm sorry to hear that :(

Was in this epoch that I started to have problems in my family in love
I lost my best friend
My dog died.. last year
and also my gramppa :(

[tpbarbosa]

Wow I wish I could hug you all and make things better for you.

My brother suffers from psychosis which causes his panic attacks and one of my good friends has Bi-Polar. When she's on her meds she's such an awesome person, but then she thinks she's fine and comes off them and she's not the same wonderful person. It's really hard to watch two people I love to bits suffer like this.

I feel sad sometimes (there a reason for that), but not in the way you guys obviously do, I wish I could make it go away for you all.

Awww..... :o

*hugs u back*
Thank u very so much
I know how your brother feels
i hope he gets better:o

[shattered_pieces]

Wow I wish I could hug you all and make things better for you.

My brother suffers from psychosis which causes his panic attacks and one of my good friends has Bi-Polar. When she's on her meds she's such an awesome person, but then she thinks she's fine and comes off them and she's not the same wonderful person. It's really hard to watch two people I love to bits suffer like this.

I feel sad sometimes (there a reason for that), but not in the way you guys obviously do, I wish I could make it go away for you all.

you are so sweet XD i got your hugs :)
i know it's hard to watch someone you love suffer..but that's life. i guess.

[Rocksquirrel]

Was in this epoch that I started to have problems in my family in love
I lost my best friend
My dog died.. last year
and also my gramppa :(

You feel now caught in the dark, I understand that. When you feel you can't stand it all then go and search help :)

but I promise you one thing, there's always a light and a warmth even when it looks dark and cold sometimes. :) you know, it can't rain all the time.

[shattered_pieces]

ok i gotta go for a while..
talk to y'all later..
i guess we owe Temperance for this thread :) even though it was my idea.. :p

[Liquorice]

Take care off yourself sweetie.

[Rocksquirrel]

ok i gotta go for a while..
talk to y'all later..
i guess we owe Temperance for this thread :) even though it was my idea.. :p

see ya. bye :) :p

[tpbarbosa]

You feel now caught in the dark, I understand that. When you feel you can't stand it all then go and search help :)

but I promise you one thing, there's always a light and a warmth even when it looks dark and cold sometimes. :) you know, it can't rain all the time.

aww...
Thank u sandra!!
You're right
One day everything will light up
And I'll see myself finally free from it :o

[Liquorice]

aww...
Thank u sandra!!
You're right
One day everything will light up
And I'll see myself finally free from it :o

I hope you do honey. A good friend once told me there's always a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. ;)

[Rocksquirrel]

I think this lyrics fits perfectly :)

My friends - RHCP

My friends are so depressed
I feel the question
Of your loneliness
Confide... `cause Ill be on your side
You know I will, you know I will

X girlfriend called me up
Alone and desperate
On the prison phone
They want... to give her 7 years
For being sad

I love all of you
Hurt by the cold
So hard and lonely too
When you dont know yourself

My friends are so distressed
And standing on
The brink of emptiness
No words... I know of to express
This emptiness

Imagine me taught by tragedy
Release is peace
I heard a little girl
And what she said
Was something beautiful
To give... your love
No matter what

I will be there for you, guys ;)

[Rocksquirrel]

I hope you do honey. A good friend once told me there's always a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. ;)

my pot of gold is stolen :p ;)

sorry, I couldn't resist xD

[Liquorice]

my pot of gold is stolen :p ;)

sorry, I couldn't resist xD

Lol. That a good one! I get you another pot. And I send you a big hug too. :)

[Rocksquirrel]

Lol. That a good one! I get you another pot. And I send you a big hug too. :)

Yay! I really need a big hug. Thank you :D

[tpbarbosa]

I hope you do honey. A good friend once told me there's always a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. ;)


awww
*hugs you*
you made my day :D

[Temperance]

Sheesh, I leave for a while and I get accused of stealing the idea for this thread. Rocksquirrel said (in the other thread) "someone should make this into its own thread..." So I made it. Gah. End of rant.

Someone mentioned earlier (I'm sorry I forgot who) about their friend being bipolar. I have a couple of people I know who are the same way. They'll be awesome as long as they are taking their meds, but then they think they feel fine, and will continue to feel fine even if they stop taking them. It's a big catch-22, and a viscious cycle to get out of.

[Rocksquirrel]

Sheesh, I leave for a while and I get accused of stealing the idea for this thread. Rocksquirrel said (in the other thread) "someone should make this into its own thread..." So I made it. Gah. End of rant.

Someone mentioned earlier (I'm sorry I forgot who) about their friend being bipolar. I have a couple of people I know who are the same way. They'll be awesome as long as they are taking their meds, but then they think they feel fine, and will continue to feel fine even if they stop taking them. It's a big catch-22, and a viscious cycle to get out of.

in real you all took my idea and put into that what it should to be A THREAD TO TALK ABOUT. It doesn't matter who had the idea or not... at least somebody did one :D thanks Temperance for making this thread :) random//

meh... now I'm getting depressed guys. xD

and WB Temperance :p

[My_Crimson_December]

well for me it neither of them helped.not pills & not therapy.i went to a therapist who told me to,and I quote, "stop watching sad movies before i sleep". yes,exactly,coz my clinical depression is based on a dramatic loved&lost movie.:rolleyes:


i took pills for a while,it helped at first,but then i just slipped back into my depression even worse.the doctor increased the dose,but then my mom just paniced coz her daughter's depressed and she has no idea why.and that's the thing right there,coz i dnt have any idea either.I DIDN'T have dramatic loses in my life,I WASN'T traumatized..I dunno what the hell is wrong with me but i just can't shake it off.

I stopped taking pills because i faked my way out of it so that eveyone around me would have some peace.they just used to be so tangled n hurt because they couldnt help me and didnt know why i am the way i am.
so now i'm stuck here,at this embrace-my-pain-&-hide-it-well phase that i can't grow out of.

[Rocksquirrel]

well for me it neither of them helped.not pills & not therapy.i went to a therapist who told me to,and I quote, "stop watching sad movies before i sleep". yes,coz my clinical depression is based on a dramatic loved&lost movie.


i took pills for a while,it helped at first,but then i just slipped back into my depression,even worse.the doctor increased the dose,but then my mom freaked out.she didnt do anything n she was as supportive as she could,but she just paniced coz her daughter's depressed and she has no idea why.n that's the thing right there,coz i dnt have any idea either.I DIDN'T have dramatic loses in my life,I WASN'T traumatized..I dunno what the hell is wrong with me but i just can't shake it off.

I stopped taking pills because i faked my way out of it so that eveyone around me would have some peace.they just used to be so tangled n hurt because they couldnt help me and didnt know why.
so now i'm stuck here,at this embrace-my-pain-&-hide-it-well phase that i can't grow out of.

oh dear, I'm sorry to hear that :( Hope you will get better soon.
in your position I would never stop to take those pills, because I guess they helped a bit, right? I don't think hiding is the best way, it makes it just worse. Talking is important just that you sleep at the night with free mind.

When you feel like you can talk here about it all.

How old are you, btw?

[tpbarbosa]

well for me it neither of them helped.not pills & not therapy.i went to a therapist who told me to,and I quote, "stop watching sad movies before i sleep". yes,coz my clinical depression is based on a dramatic loved&lost movie.


i took pills for a while,it helped at first,but then i just slipped back into my depression,even worse.the doctor increased the dose,but then my mom freaked out.she didnt do anything n she was as supportive as she could,but she just paniced coz her daughter's depressed and she has no idea why.n that's the thing right there,coz i dnt have any idea either.I DIDN'T have dramatic loses in my life,I WASN'T traumatized..I dunno what the hell is wrong with me but i just can't shake it off.

I stopped taking pills because i faked my way out of it so that eveyone around me would have some peace.they just used to be so tangled n hurt because they couldnt help me and didnt know why.
so now i'm stuck here,at this embrace-my-pain-&-hide-it-well phase that i can't grow out of.

That's so sad to know
I feel sorry about you
Maybe in the beginning you were only emocionaly desestructured
And you didn't need all these medications

[My_Crimson_December]

I think this lyrics fits perfectly :)

My friends - RHCP

My friends are so depressed
I feel the question
Of your loneliness
Confide... `cause Ill be on your side
You know I will, you know I will

X girlfriend called me up
Alone and desperate
On the prison phone
They want... to give her 7 years
For being sad

I love all of you
Hurt by the cold
So hard and lonely too
When you dont know yourself

My friends are so distressed
And standing on
The brink of emptiness
No words... I know of to express
This emptiness

Imagine me taught by tragedy
Release is peace
I heard a little girl
And what she said
Was something beautiful
To give... your love
No matter what

I will be there for you, guys ;)


awwwwwww this is soo sweet :o

[Rocksquirrel]

awwwwwww this is soo sweet :o

I really mean it so :p :) though I don't know you guys xD

[My_Crimson_December]

oh dear, I'm sorry to hear that :( Hope you will get better soon.
in your position I would never stop to take those pills, because I guess they helped a bit, right? I don't think hiding is the best way, it makes it just worse.

from a logical point of view,i know u're right.but then again,when i used to show it,it just worried everyone else around me,and that put even more pressure on me.
i mean,someone asks you "so why are you depressed?what's wrong?" and if you don't have an answer,they expect you to be happy.so that's what i did.


Talking is important just that you sleep at the night with free mind.

When you feel like you can talk here about it all.

How old are you, btw?


yeah sleep,that's a whole other issue..u know,i just basically stopped sleeping ever since i got depressed like when i was 15-16i guess.i get about 3 hours of sleep each night.4 if i'm lucky.and i ddnt get used to it,it still wears me out.i wish i could just sleep and get my mind off things for a decent amount of time.

i'm 19 .. how old r ya?i'm areej btw,but call me Jojo :)

[My_Crimson_December]

I really mean it so :p :) though I don't know you guys xD

thanksies :) right back at ya ;)

[Rocksquirrel]

from a logical point of view,i know u're right.but then again,when i used to show it,it just worried everyone else around me,and that put even more pressure on me.
i mean,someone asks you "so why are you depressed?what's wrong?" and if you don't have an answer,they expect you to be happy.so that's what i did.




yeah sleep,that's a whole other issue..u know,i just basically stopped sleeping ever since i got depressed like when i was 15-16i guess.i get about 3 hours of sleep each night.4 if i'm lucky.and i ddnt get used to it,it still wears me out.i wish i could just sleep and get my mind off things for a decent amount of time.

i'm 19 .. how old r ya?i'm areej btw,but call me Jojo :)

Nobody expects an answer in this case. Always when they are feelings or just head things you can't explain. so :) don't worry about that.

I can't sleep too but not because I'm depressed, something else =/ I wish I could sleep long too and get a bit rest and peace at least.

I'm 17. Nice to meet you JoJo :) I'm Sandra

[My_Crimson_December]

That's so sad to know
I feel sorry about you
Maybe in the beginning you were only emocionaly desestructured
And you didn't need all these medications

thnx :)
i was diagnosed with clinical depression,it wasnt just emotional destructure coz i was severely depressed for 2 and a half years before i went to a doctor,and he said i should've come earlier.that's why he put me on meds right away.

[Nordic_Storm]

Anti-depressives helped me really much, feeling much more happy, energetic these days and it also took away the worries that came from my social phobia.

[My_Crimson_December]

Nobody expects an answer in this case. Always when they are feelings or just head things you can't explain. so :) don't worry about that.

well i dunno but that's not really the case with me.i mean,i love my mom she's great,and she worries so much and when she couldnt find what was wrong with me she decided that it was her fault.she blamed herself and things got messed up and she was hurting and she wanted me off the pills coz she was scared i'd get addicted to them and i dunno i couldnt take it anymore.


I can't sleep too but not because I'm depressed, something else =/ I wish I could sleep long too and get a bit rest and peace at least.

sorry :( lack of sleep sux


I'm 17. Nice to meet you JoJo :) I'm Sandra
nice to meet ya too :) u got a lovely name

[Kimberlys]

Anti-depressives helped me really much, feeling much more happy, energetic these days and it also took away the worries that came from my social phobia.

did you had social phobia?
what can i do with it ? i'm just afraid to be social with
my friends that i have known for 15 years. and on the way home, if i meet a first grade kid, i'm so freaking scared.

[Rocksquirrel]

well i dunno but that's not really the case with me.i mean,i love my mom she's great,and she worries so much and when she couldnt find what was wrong with me she decided that it was her fault.she blamed herself and things got messed up and she was hurting and she wanted me off the pills coz she was scared i'd get addicted to them and i dunno i couldnt take it anymore.


sorry :( lack of sleep sux


nice to meet ya too :) u got a lovely name

I still don't think it's good that you don't take them anymore.

it's okay. :)

thank you xD

[Rocksquirrel]

Anti-depressives helped me really much, feeling much more happy, energetic these days and it also took away the worries that came from my social phobia.

ding ding. I hope you aren't mad at me :p

[tpbarbosa]

thnx :)
i was diagnosed with clinical depression,it wasnt just emotional destructure coz i was severely depressed for 2 and a half years before i went to a doctor,and he said i should've come earlier.that's why he put me on meds right away.

aww...
I feel sorry
i really hope you get better
why you were depressed?

[Kimberlys]

thnx :)
i was diagnosed with clinical depression,it wasnt just emotional destructure coz i was severely depressed for 2 and a half years before i went to a doctor,and he said i should've come earlier.that's why he put me on meds right away.

thats what i'm afraid for, that i should had came when it was 4 years ago, and dont 4years to late. i just facked up my life. damn i'm afriad for to much >.< :(

[Rocksquirrel]

thats what i'm afraid for, that i should had came when it was 4 years ago, and dont 4years to late. i just facked up my life. damn i'm afriad for to much >.< :(

It's okay to go now too. It's never too late for that. It's all a long progress. Don't be afraid of it :)

I promise you everything WILL be good again. And then you will smile again. :)

[My_Crimson_December]

aww...
I feel sorry
i really hope you get better
why you were depressed?

it's ok .. thnx :)
umm that's exactly the question i wish to find an answer for everyday.. :(

[LP_Fan101]

Ahh another thread for the depressed...

Well even though I am depressed I've never really told anybody and I have developed a way of hiding it. And I just don't like the idea of being on pills

[My_Crimson_December]

thats what i'm afraid for, that i should had came when it was 4 years ago, and dont 4years to late. i just facked up my life. damn i'm afriad for to much >.< :(

but like Sandra said it's not too late. you can still get better,and it might work for you. at least try,alot of ppl get better even if they go after along time.don't give up on urself,coz we won't give up on you :)

[My_Crimson_December]

Ahh another thread for the depressed...

Well even though I am depressed I've never really told anybody and I have developed a way of hiding it. And I just don't like the idea of being on pills

did u try anything else? like therapy maybe?

[LP_Fan101]

did u try anything else? like therapy maybe?

Not without my mum finding out :( And I've been in the hospital twice for somehting else already. They gave me a leaflet with a helpline on it.

[Rocksquirrel]

did u try anything else? like therapy maybe?

same here. And pills aren't really bad, they are just a "moment" solution. they help a lot until the reason is found. :)

[LP_Fan101]

same here. And pills aren't really bad, they are just a "moment" solution. they help a lot until the reason is found. :)

I'm just scared that people can becom addicted to it. I don't want that :(

[tpbarbosa]

it's ok .. thnx :)
umm that's exactly the question i wish to find an answer for everyday.. :(

My reasons are a little clear
But something still missed.. :(

[Rocksquirrel]

I'm just scared that people can becom addicted to it. I don't want that :(

That is true. But you don't when you visit a doctor who controls it. And they really help :)

[My_Crimson_December]

That is true. But you don't when you visit a doctor who controls it. And they really help :)

yeah that's true.don't take it without a doctor's supervision but when u do that the risk is really so low.

[My_Crimson_December]

same here. And pills aren't really bad, they are just a "moment" solution. they help a lot until the reason is found. :)

yeah they are...i dont really think they help alone on the long run though..gotta solve the problems not just the symptoms

[My_Crimson_December]

My reasons are a little clear
But something still missed.. :(

aww :( wanna talk bout it?

[Rocksquirrel]

yeah they are...i dont really think they help alone on the long run though..gotta solve the problems not just the symptoms

exactly.

*pokes you* I'm bored :p

[My_Crimson_December]

ouch!!
i got sensitive skin :p

g2g though .. mom's gonna freak if i dnt read oen page 4 my exams :D

stay safe hun

[Rocksquirrel]

ouch!!
i got sensitive skin :p

g2g though .. mom's gonna freak if i dnt read oen page 4 my exams :D

stay safe hun

:p

bye bye :) see ya.

yep ^^

[Temperance]

Whew, I finally made it home (it takes me an hour to drive home from work).

Since sleep has been discussed a bit, I'll start there. That was one of the first symptoms I noticed that really got me worried. I never, ever used to have problems sleeping. I's lay down in bed and I would be asleep 5 minutes later. I had a miscarriage in June, and after that I couldn't sleep at all. Meybe an hour at a time, off and on all night. Then I had to have an emergency surgery about a month later, which the recovery for turned out to be really traumatic. After the miscarriage I started to have social anxiety really bad. I couldn't look at people, couldn't make a phone call if I didn't know the other person, couldn't drive anywhere. And yet it still took me another 3 months to see a doctor about all of it.

[Rocksquirrel]

Whew, I finally made it home (it takes me an hour to drive home from work).

Since sleep has been discussed a bit, I'll start there. That was one of the first symptoms I noticed that really got me worried. I never, ever used to have problems sleeping. I's lay down in bed and I would be asleep 5 minutes later. I had a miscarriage in June, and after that I couldn't sleep at all. Meybe an hour at a time, off and on all night. Then I had to have an emergency surgery about a month later, which the recovery for turned out to be really traumatic. After the miscarriage I started to have social anxiety really bad. I couldn't look at people, couldn't make a phone call if I didn't know the other person, couldn't drive anywhere. And yet it still took me another 3 months to see a doctor about all of it.

I'm sorry to hear that :( I guess I would react the same way.

Well, I can't sleep because I have all the times thinks on my mind. I fall asleep easily when I am tired but when I wake up I think about it all. It sux but I'm optimistic that it will go away when school starts again for me.

How old are you btw? Maybe you can give me an advice in other topic ^^

[Unicorn]

I definitely need some anti-depressants right now 0_o

[Temperance]

I'm sorry to hear that :( I guess I would react the same way.

Well, I can't sleep because I have all the times thinks on my mind. I fall asleep easily when I am tired but when I wake up I think about it all. It sux but I'm optimistic that it will go away when school starts again for me.

How old are you btw? Maybe you can give me an advice in other topic ^^

I'm 30. :D

My lack of sleep had me taking sleeping pills 5 days a week. As soon as I started on my antidepressents I didn't need the sleeping pills anymore. I get about 8 hours of sleep a night now, thankfully.

[Temperance]

I definitely need some anti-depressants right now 0_o

*hugs Liliana*

[Rocksquirrel]

I'm 30. :D

My lack of sleep had me taking sleeping pills 5 days a week. As soon as I started on my antidepressents I didn't need the sleeping pills anymore. I get about 8 hours of sleep a night now, thankfully.

can you give me your opinion about that? Link Link (http://forums.linkinpark.com/showthr...?t=5716&page=7) it goes a few pages. You have more experiences than me, so your opinion is important for me :) but really only when you have time :)

Sometimes I wish I had some too. But I get my 8 hours of sleep somehow together. My own worst enemy is my mind and thinking.

[Temperance]

can you give me your opinion about that? Link Link (http://forums.linkinpark.com/showthr...?t=5716&page=7) it goes a few pages. You have more experiences than me, so your opinion is important for me :) but really only when you have time :)

Sometimes I wish I had some too. But I get my 8 hours of sleep somehow together. My own worst enemy is my mind and thinking.

The link won't open. :(

I'd be more than happy to help you out in any way possible! :)

[Rocksquirrel]

The link won't open. :(

I'd be more than happy to help you out in any way possible! :)

link link 2 xD (http://forums.linkinpark.com/showthread.php?t=5716&page=7)

I hope it works... It's good to hear a few opinions to it...

and thank you :)

btw

I'm glad how the thread works.

[tpbarbosa]

aww :( wanna talk bout it?


my dad screamed at me again right now :(

[Rocksquirrel]

my dad screamed at me again right now :(

here it's my mum. xD

why did he scream at you? =/

[tpbarbosa]

here it's my mum. xD

why did he scream at you? =/

because the chair fell
And he thought I'd broken it :(
He doesn't even listen to me!!!

[Rocksquirrel]

because the chair fell
And he thought I'd broken it :(
He doesn't even listen to me!!!

believe me, don't take it too serious. Parents often don't listen and he was just a bit confused of the noise and so on :) Really no reason to continue thinking about it. =)

[tpbarbosa]

believe me, don't take it too serious. Parents often don't listen and he was just a bit confused of the noise and so on :) Really no reason to continue thinking about it. =)

yeah you're right I'll try to forget not only it but all those times...
We fought :(

[Temperance]

link link 2 xD (http://forums.linkinpark.com/showthread.php?t=5716&page=7)

I hope it works... It's good to hear a few opinions to it...

and thank you :)

btw

I'm glad how the thread works.

I'm in the process of reading through it right now. One question so far, is this an internet thing or do you know this person face-to-face?

I may not get back to you until tomorrow. I have to go to the store, and then I have the championship college football game on TV tonight, lol.

[Rocksquirrel]

I'm in the process of reading through it right now. One question so far, is this an internet thing or do you know this person face-to-face?

I may not get back to you until tomorrow. I have to go to the store, and then I have the championship college football game on TV tonight, lol.

EDIT: I realized much. Could you PM me your thoughts to it instead of posting here?

pics. I know how this person looks. We phoned. So....

I seriously can't wait for your answer =p But I'm sure I'm just too dramatical about it all. And take it all too serious. =)

[Rocksquirrel]

yeah you're right I'll try to forget not only it but all those times...
We fought :(

it's natural :) Don't think about it too much. He loves you. Sometimes it's so.

[tpbarbosa]

it's natural :) Don't think about it too much. He loves you. Sometimes it's so.

:p yes but if it was the only real thing I'd be better :rolleyes:

[ang3llla]

its fucken bullshit. talking to people doesnt really help because all they do is ask fucken questions and piss me off more. the people who listen dont understand. im so sick of this shit. ive been through so much crap and im only 16. i cant even talk to my own family becuause they live in lala land where nothing is ever wrong. its soooo irritating.

[Liquorice]

Someone mentioned earlier (I'm sorry I forgot who) about their friend being bipolar. I have a couple of people I know who are the same way. They'll be awesome as long as they are taking their meds, but then they think they feel fine, and will continue to feel fine even if they stop taking them. It's a big catch-22, and a viscious cycle to get out of.

yep that was me. My friend is such a wonderful person, kind loving and very big-hearted. As long as she on her meds. Then she feels "normal" so comes of them and is not the same beautiful person. Then she has to go back onto her meds and she comes right again. Its true what you say its a viscious cycle and I can't do anything to help her out of it. But I love her anyways. I just wish I could understand more.

[Angiepantalones]

Okay, I've skimmed through this thread a little bit and I've noticed a few people say pills aren't the solution. I really have to disagree with that. For some people they can be used as a temporary solution, yes, but for others, their chemical imbalance is so large that meds really are the only logical solution. I've been on and off various anti-depressants, and I can honestly say that without the meds I don't know where I'd be. I've tried many, many different things over the years: light therapy, diet therapy, auditory therapy, everything. Meds were the only thing that produced a consistent result. I don't always like the way they make me feel, but it's a lot better than where I was before. The last time I went off my meds I had a huge manic episode where I threatened to jump out of the car while we were going 80mph on the interstate. I don't even remember that.

In short, saying meds are never the solution is a very ignorant statement. They certainly aren't the way to go in every case, but for some people they're lifesavers.

[Angiepantalones]

its fucken bullshit. talking to people doesnt really help because all they do is ask fucken questions and piss me off more. the people who listen dont understand. im so sick of this shit. ive been through so much crap and im only 16. i cant even talk to my own family becuause they live in lala land where nothing is ever wrong. its soooo irritating.

Finding the right person to talk to can be really frustrating. I've been through about ten psychs since I was diagnosed, none of them worked for any decent length of time. But I finally found a good team of psychiatrists and psychologists and I've been making a ton of progress. It's exhausting and the questions they ask may seem ridiculous, but they're really, honestly trying to help. It sounds like you've been combative towards the people you've talked to. Try going along with their questions, answering honestly. They're just trying to get a good picture of who you are and what your experiences have been so they can help you better. They won't understand unless you try to help them understand.

[Unicorn]

*hugs Liliana*

Aww, thank you.

I guess the medications won't be necessary after all. I just need start thinking positively when I have too much stress...

[mau_mon_san]

those other "medications" they call do not always work... they also worsen the condition of those who are depressed... and those therapists they call do not always help those who are in need... the answer is also on the person who have the problem...all they need is the right mind set and the right people to calm them down

[Angiepantalones]

those other "medications" they call do not always work... they also worsen the condition of those who are depressed... and those therapists they call do not always help those who are in need... the answer is also on the person who have the problem...all they need is the right mind set and the right people to calm them down

This is definitely not always true. Maybe in cases of situational depression, but for chemical depression the "right" mindset is physically impossible because the brain is wired wrong.

[shattered_pieces]

I think this lyrics fits perfectly :)

My friends - RHCP

My friends are so depressed
I feel the question
Of your loneliness
Confide... `cause Ill be on your side
You know I will, you know I will

X girlfriend called me up
Alone and desperate
On the prison phone
They want... to give her 7 years
For being sad

I love all of you
Hurt by the cold
So hard and lonely too
When you dont know yourself

My friends are so distressed
And standing on
The brink of emptiness
No words... I know of to express
This emptiness

Imagine me taught by tragedy
Release is peace
I heard a little girl
And what she said
Was something beautiful
To give... your love
No matter what

I will be there for you, guys ;)

Sandra you're sooo sweet =) (btw i know your name coz i used to come here before now but i couldn't sign in coz of the stupid boards..

[RaTeDsGrL]

there isnt much a psychiatrist can do that a good friend could do better.

least that's what my dad says. my boyfriend is bipolar and he says his medicine doesnt help him, he's been back so many times. whenever hes around me though, the only time hes ever on the depressive side is when hes really tired.

[RaTeDsGrL]

Aww, thank you.

I guess the medications won't be necessary after all. I just need start thinking positively when I have too much stress...

^5 for not being able to manage stress! mine's been getting so bad lately, i can't touch schoolwork without crying. :s

[shattered_pieces]

today i'm more than depressed..
i'm broken
and i feel like dying..
and i'm leaving this thread..

but fuck, who cares anyway..

"What do you do when somebody lets you down
And you wanna say something but you can’t 'cause they're not around
Inside you think they know the extent of the pain
But they won’t even admit that they were the one to blame
Can somebody please just explain to me
What happened to the way that we always said we’d be"
the hard way <3

[Rocksquirrel]

Okay, I've skimmed through this thread a little bit and I've noticed a few people say pills aren't the solution. I really have to disagree with that. For some people they can be used as a temporary solution, yes, but for others, their chemical imbalance is so large that meds really are the only logical solution. I've been on and off various anti-depressants, and I can honestly say that
without the meds I don't know where I'd be. I've tried many, many different things over the years: light therapy, diet therapy, auditory therapy, everything. Meds were the only thing that produced a consistent result. I don't always like the way they make me feel, but it's a lot better than where I was before. The last time I went off my meds I had a huge manic episode where I threatened to jump out of the car while we were going 80mph on the interstate. I don't even remember that.

In short, saying meds are never the solution is a very ignorant statement. They certainly aren't the way to go in every case, but for some people they're lifesavers.

I understand what you say. And yes, you are right. But meds shouldn't be the first thing when you have depressions, for example you tried many different things before. And it didn't work. And i mean, maybe the majority of people who are depressed don't need them their whole life, if it's just a mind thing which i think is for the most the reason is.

Probably you mean me for the "ignorant statement". Like I said it's a part solution, for those who haven't this chemical thing in their brains, where it's really just mentally. In their case it should really be the last thing to do.


This is definitely not always true. Maybe in cases of situational depression, but for chemical depression the "right" mindset is physically impossible because the brain is wired wrong.

My dad needs pills too. Without them he's acting weird. No doctor can help in that case. So I understand what you mean. But it's very specific and I don't think so many have that.

I hope you understand what I mean. I subdivide these two things in two different categories. In one category it's not the perfect solution aka part solution with the goal to find the real reason and to have more time for it.

The second category are the pills probably the perfect solution because like you said, no doctor in this whole wide world can help you with that. Meds are necessary, because something is not right in the brain.

And thank you Angiepantalones. i didn't thought about that before. :)

[Rocksquirrel]

Sandra you're sooo sweet =) (btw i know your name coz i used to come here before now but i couldn't sign in coz of the stupid boards..

thanks xD and Ah! Got my name used so often? >_> anyway.

and, btw try to think a bit positive :)

[Kimberlys]

today i'm more than depressed..
i'm broken
and i feel like dying..
and i'm leaving this thread..

but fuck, who cares anyway..

"What do you do when somebody lets you down
And you wanna say something but you can’t 'cause they're not around
Inside you think they know the extent of the pain
But they won’t even admit that they were the one to blame
Can somebody please just explain to me
What happened to the way that we always said we’d be"
the hard way <3

i hate school, i cant belive it. i were more happyer after that i said whats wrong with me to you guys, because you listened, but when i told my other friend Emily, she were like;" Oh, ok. but me and fito is gonna celebrate our birthday toghether, so.. you and her wont celebrate it afterall"
god, i'm so broken inside. i had looking for to it almost a year! and then one god damn week before, she ruin it all!
now i dont want to celebrate it all, and just have it like last year.

i am so damn broken inside right now that i just want to cry the whole world full of tears.

[Nordic_Storm]

did you had social phobia?
what can i do with it ? i'm just afraid to be social with
my friends that i have known for 15 years. and on the way home, if i meet a first grade kid, i'm so freaking scared.

Cognitive therapy combined with anti-depressives usually helps people the most, I will start my real therapy maybe next week.

Now when I'm taking anti-depressives I don't worry so much and feel more in balance with myself. I still obviously have a long way to go, I never really had any friends besides the online friends that I started to get last year.

[Rocksquirrel]

i hate school, i cant belive it. i were more happyer after that i said whats wrong with me to you guys, because you listened, but when i told my other friend Emily, she were like;" Oh, ok. but me and fito is gonna celebrate our birthday toghether, so.. you and her wont celebrate it afterall"
god, i'm so broken inside. i had looking for to it almost a year! and then one god damn week before, she ruin it all!
now i dont want to celebrate it all, and just have it like last year.

i am so damn broken inside right now that i just want to cry the whole world full of tears.

you have to explain it me a bit more because i don't understand it :o

I'm glad we could help you yesterday :)

[Kimberlys]

you have to explain it me a bit more because i don't understand it :o

I'm glad we could help you yesterday :)

i asked my friend Fito, if we were still going to celebrate our birthday together, because its like 4 days beetween, and then she said no because Emily asked her.
But she and I had a deal since March last year. and then the break it, only because i have a twin sister. and she know how depressed i am, so she just want to make me worse.
and i showed my cutts to Stine, because she always get me seroius and stuff, then she said; You only doing this for the attention.

[Rocksquirrel]

i asked my friend Fito, if we were still going to celebrate our birthday together, because its like 4 days beetween, and then she said no because Emily asked her.
But she and I had a deal since March last year. and then the break it, only because i have a twin sister. and she know how depressed i am, so she just want to make me worse.
and i showed my cutts to Stine, because she always get me seroius and stuff, then she said; You only doing this for the attention.

oh dear, you don't have good friends and it's probably this age where people change. i know that. I had friends like that before too.

I say you, don't think about it. Next year will you celebrate then without her. she doesn't desserve your attention, if she would be your friend she would try to understand you, same for Stine.

I'm pretty sure you don't show your cutts for attention because I know *out of the things you told me* you are afraid what people could think about you. I can't understand why she isn't able to think about how you feel and that you need somebody to talk about it.

I say you, don't worry too much about it. Don't pay attention for her, she didn't pay attention to you so why should you?

[Kimberlys]

i acutally dont know if i am going to celebrate the birthday at all, because every year is like hell. oh and after that Stine said that, she run to the guy i liked and said it, why cant she just understand that ill, and have a problem with it :(

[Rocksquirrel]

i acutally dont know if i am going to celebrate the birthday at all, because every year is like hell. oh and after that Stine said that, she run to the guy i liked and said it, why cant she just understand that ill, and have a problem with it :(

I could give many examples and probably, I'm so sure a few people think I'm a smart ass xD I'm sorry for that btw.

Well, she's around 15 or so? Not everybody in that age understands all and especially in that case. It's difficult. I never experience a depression, who knows maybe in the future, but I mean it's hard for somebody who never had it to understand it. And it's still missing the view on the whole thing, she's young and not mature enough to understand it all. Neither I do really, i guess. I try to understand and to read out of experiences I saw and which I read here to get a little look into it all.


and you know, "people fear what they can't understand" quote from dark angel xD



*I sound so smart ass like, guys*

[Kimberlys]

I could give many examples and probably, I'm so sure a few people think I'm a smart ass xD I'm sorry for that btw.

Well, she's around 15 or so? Not everybody in that age understands all and especially in that case. It's difficult. I never experience a depression, who knows maybe in the future, but I mean it's hard for somebody who never had it to understand it. And it's still missing the view on the whole thing, she's young and not mature enough to understand it all. Neither I do really, i guess. I try to understand and to read out of experiences I saw and which I read here to get a little look into it all.


and you know, "people fear what they can't understand" quote from dark angel xD



*I sound so smart ass like, guys*

she is 15 at Januar 19th, but i actually think she knows.
damn i dont want to write anymore because it seems like i'm the only person who acutally getting the whole attention ..
sorry guys

[Rocksquirrel]

she is 15 at Januar 19th, but i actually think she knows.
damn i dont want to write anymore because it seems like i'm the only person who acutally getting the whole attention ..
sorry guys

I doubt that, because she wouldn't say shit like that.

Writing / speaking it out helps.... Don't worry. And nobody else is here who has a problem or isn't online so.. :)

When feel like speaking, speak, if not, it's okay too. =)

[LP_Fan101]

Well isn't this just great...

Today I got told I actually look depressed. Maybe it's starting to show now. Took a while but I guess I can't really hide it anymore. Oh well I really couldn't care less what people think I'm feeling.

[Kimberlys]

Well isn't this just great...

Today I got told I actually look depressed. Maybe it's starting to show now. Took a while but I guess I can't really hide it anymore. Oh well I really couldn't care less what people think I'm feeling.

poor you :(. i just told some of my friends. and they said they noticed it at school, but they didnt know it was that ill.

[LP_Fan101]

poor you :(. i just told some of my friends. and they said they noticed it at school, but they didnt know it was that ill.

Ill? With what exactly?

[Kimberlys]

Ill? With what exactly?

depressions and social phobia
and had eating disorder

[LP_Fan101]

depressions and social phobia
and had eating disorder

Aww man :( I have eating disorder too

[Anstice]

I've tried to tell my mother that I'm depressed before. She doesn't want to believe me. But...I have a problem, and I know that I do. I just get so...angry all the time. I get so enraged that I feel like I want to hurt other people and myself. I have hurt myself before...

[Kimberlys]

I've tried to tell my mother that I'm depressed before. She doesn't want to believe me. But...I have a problem, and I know that I do. I just get so...angry all the time. I get so enraged that I feel like I want to hurt other people and myself. I have hurt myself before...

we're in the same boat. i tried to tell my mom, and she just ignore it, even if i cry.

[Unicorn]

^5 for not being able to manage stress! mine's been getting so bad lately, i can't touch schoolwork without crying. :s

I'm writing my thesis which is a great reason to actually break down and jump out of the window at some point. Lol... I do feel like Tweek right now 0_o

[LP_Fan101]

I could never tell my mum that I self-harm or that I'm depressed. As she has already stated she will send me to a mental health hospital. I know how you guys feel :( life sucks for me right now

[Rocksquirrel]

I'm writing my thesis which is a great reason to actually break down and jump out of the window at some point. Lol... I do feel like Tweek right now 0_o

I act like Tweek, always so NERVOUS!

[Unicorn]

I act like Tweek, always so NERVOUS!

If I feel I'm in control of the situation, I'm cool. But this is a new situation for me. And I have so little time left. I can feel Tweek syndrome coooooming

[My_Crimson_December]

i NEVER work good under pressure.i dont sleep,eat,and i just stop doing anything altogether.
like now..exams, i should be studying like about 8 hours aday but i'm not freakin reading ONE page :( n then i get frustrated n feel worse which leads to more failing ...
shit.

[My_Crimson_December]

I act like Tweek, always so NERVOUS!

what does Tweek mean? :confused: *is feeling really stupid*

[My_Crimson_December]

I could never tell my mum that I self-harm or that I'm depressed. As she has already stated she will send me to a mental health hospital. I know how you guys feel :( life sucks for me right now

awww hunnie :( that does suck...did u try suggesting going to a therapist but not like a stay-in hospital? depression doesn't alway require an inpatient treatment.

[Rocksquirrel]

i NEVER work good under pressure.i dont sleep,eat,and i just stop doing anything altogether.
like now..exams, i should be studying like about 8 hours aday but i'm not freakin reading ONE page :( n then i get frustrated n feel worse which leads to more failing ...
shit.

Same here. You can just try to study and to calm down.

what does Tweek mean? *is feeling really stupid*
http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/tweek-23561.jpg

a South Park Character :)

[Unicorn]

what does Tweek mean? :confused: *is feeling really stupid*

South Park character. Always shaking and stuff.

[My_Crimson_December]

oh .. *feels retarded* :p
then i feel Tweek too :(

[My_Crimson_December]

hey i'll move my posting to the say what's on your mind thread coz i kinda feel we went way off topic here and i dnt like that.this thread has its own purpose so maybe we should post there..what do u say guyz?

[RaTeDsGrL]

I'm writing my thesis which is a great reason to actually break down and jump out of the window at some point. Lol... I do feel like Tweek right now 0_o

this is probably going to be a real shitty thing to hear, but try exercising. it helps soooooo much. have a friend do it with you.
my boyfriend and i have a schedule for it; mondays, wednesdays and thursdays we run; tuesdays and thursdays we lift weights/do pushups/situps; saturday we play ddr, and sunday is a rest day.

if it starts messing with your school work, talk to your counselor at school, she'll know exactly how to help you.

[Unicorn]

this is probably going to be a real shitty thing to hear, but try exercising. it helps soooooo much. have a friend do it with you.
my boyfriend and i have a schedule for it; mondays, wednesdays and thursdays we run; tuesdays and thursdays we lift weights/do pushups/situps; saturday we play ddr, and sunday is a rest day.

if it starts messing with your school work, talk to your counselor at school, she'll know exactly how to help you.

It's not shitty, actually I used to exercise everyday and I know it helps a lot. What's shitty is that I stopped doing that when I got a kitty 'cause he needed too much attention, lol. Now he's bigger tho so I might get him to exercise as well but I don't know if he likes that idea.

[shattered_pieces]

i hate school, i cant belive it. i were more happyer after that i said whats wrong with me to you guys, because you listened, but when i told my other friend Emily, she were like;" Oh, ok. but me and fito is gonna celebrate our birthday toghether, so.. you and her wont celebrate it afterall"
god, i'm so broken inside. i had looking for to it almost a year! and then one god damn week before, she ruin it all!
now i dont want to celebrate it all, and just have it like last year.

i am so damn broken inside right now that i just want to cry the whole world full of tears.

aww hunnie.. i feel the same..
but glad you can get it all out here =)
it's really mean to break your promise :mad: i hate it when people do that.

[shattered_pieces]

everyone remember "Part Of Me"??

" new cuts cover where the old ones are.."

"and now you know that you can choose to lose the part of your heart where your inside's bruised..you can live if you're willing to..put a stop to just what's killing you.."

i thought it may help to rememebr it XD coz it always helps to listen to LP but sometimes this song gets forgotten coz it's old.. but it's amazing =)

[RaTeDsGrL]

It's not shitty, actually I used to exercise everyday and I know it helps a lot. What's shitty is that I stopped doing that when I got a kitty 'cause he needed too much attention, lol. Now he's bigger tho so I might get him to exercise as well but I don't know if he likes that idea.

lol he'd hate you. luckily, i have a dog that badly needs in shape. she's a fatty.

[Nordic_Storm]

this is probably going to be a real shitty thing to hear, but try exercising. it helps soooooo much. have a friend do it with you.
my boyfriend and i have a schedule for it; mondays, wednesdays and thursdays we run; tuesdays and thursdays we lift weights/do pushups/situps; saturday we play ddr, and sunday is a rest day.

if it starts messing with your school work, talk to your counselor at school, she'll know exactly how to help you.

Yeah exercising can really help a lot, I run and lift weights a couple of times a week and that always makes me feel good about myself.

[Kimberlys]

my friend want to know what my parents know, so she is signig me up for a treatment .. i know she's trying to help, but i dont want to or need to that friends that i love is helping me something trough that i need to figure out by my self

[Temperance]

Sorry I've been MIA everyone! We had a huge snowstorm yesterday, and of course all hell broke loose at work. Things should get back to normal today. *crosses fingers*

Exercising is one of the first things I did to help with my depression. It didn't work for me because if you couple exercise with an ED, it just makes the ED worse. But I have read that it can help for a lot of people. Even just being outside can help. Something to do with the sun exposure, and vitamin D I think (don't quote me though, I'm not really sure).

There still seems to be a stigma attached to taking prescribed medications. I have never had issues with meds. If I need something to help me, and it works, then fine. Once you get to a point where you can't live in your own skin, you're pretty much willing to try anything. Do I want to take the meds for the rest of my life? Not really, but I realize that my illness is not temporary, and is not some seasonal thing. It's wired in my brain, and no amount of "think positive" is going to change it.
In case people didn't know (and I think only a few people do), I am currently pregnant. My doctor still wants me to take my medication because the benefits far oytweigh the risks. She did switch me to a different medication that is safer for pregnancy. There was a definite down time when I had to adjust, but I feel better now. She thinks I am at a huge risk for post-partum depression, and wants me to continue taking the meds for at least a year afterwards. Also, being pregnant is the only reason I am attempting recovery from my ED. It's not just me anymore, you know?
Bah...long rambling post. Rocksquirrel, I will PM you with my thoughts about what's going on. I hope things have improved though. :)

[tpbarbosa]

everyone remember "Part Of Me"??

" new cuts cover where the old ones are.."

"and now you know that you can choose to lose the part of your heart where your inside's bruised..you can live if you're willing to..put a stop to just what's killing you.."

i thought it may help to rememebr it XD coz it always helps to listen to LP but sometimes this song gets forgotten coz it's old.. but it's amazing =)

this song is awesome
Probably one of my favorites LP lyrics ever :o

[tpbarbosa]

i NEVER work good under pressure.i dont sleep,eat,and i just stop doing anything altogether.
like now..exams, i should be studying like about 8 hours aday but i'm not freakin reading ONE page :( n then i get frustrated n feel worse which leads to more failing ...
shit.

:( Same here
I never really liked to study because of it
I mean I can't focus myself I tear under pressure
I feel really bad when something is coming like a big test or things like it

And temperance I hope evrything is ok with you;)

[My_Crimson_December]

yeah i feel like such a failure when it comes to study.i mean i swear i can't focus for more than 5 minutes.I CAN'T.i hate this
:(

[tpbarbosa]

yeah i feel like such a failure when it comes to study.i mean i swear i can't focus for more than 5 minutes.I CAN'T.i hate this
:(

:( same here
I mean I just can't know what I'm reading it sucks :mad:

[My_Crimson_December]

tell me bout it.i just turn the page over n over again...i used to be able to study .. like 5 years ago.i used to be good at it.then i got depression.and that's just it.i couldn't focus on anything anymore.2 freakin' hours and i'm still reading the same page.that's so fuckin' frustrating .......

[Temperance]

And temperance I hope evrything is ok with you;)

Oh yes, things are fine for the most part. It's just a struggle making sure I'm eating enough, and eating the right things. I was a little stressed when I went in for my last pregnancy appointment and they told me I had lost 5 pounds. In my head, in a sick way I was happy about it. Then it was like "you idiot, you're not supposed to be doing this anymore!" It's a daily struggle.

[My_Crimson_December]

hey temperance jsut wanted 2 say thnx 4 this thread ;)

[tpbarbosa]

Oh yes, things are fine for the most part. It's just a struggle making sure I'm eating enough, and eating the right things. I was a little stressed when I went in for my last pregnancy appointment and they told me I had lost 5 pounds. In my head, in a sick way I was happy about it. Then it was like "you idiot, you're not supposed to be doing this anymore!" It's a daily struggle.


awww..
I understand what you mean
I hope you can get the points get but it's cool to know you didn't get upset for it :o

[tpbarbosa]

tell me bout it.i just turn the page over n over again...i used to be able to study .. like 5 years ago.i used to be good at it.then i got depression.and that's just it.i couldn't focus on anything anymore.2 freakin' hours and i'm still reading the same page.that's so fuckin' frustrating .......


:( :( :(

same here I got some bad grades about it
My last semester wasn't soooo good if compared to the 1st
LOL
Yeah it's soo dawn wrong.. :(
I can read the same page 100 times that in the end I didn't understand NOTHING

[shattered_pieces]

this song is awesome
Probably one of my favorites LP lyrics ever :o

i know!! it's pretty amazing :) and yet underrated..

[LP_Fan101]

One of my best friends has found out I'm depressed. About fucking time! Just goes to show how much attention they pay to me. What's worse is that they have told someone else and now it's spreading around my entire fucking school! This isn't gonna help me in the slightest...

I just want to die right now...

[tpbarbosa]

One of my best friends has found out I'm depressed. About fucking time! Just goes to show how much attention they pay to me. What's worse is that they have told someone else and now it's spreading around my entire fucking school! This isn't gonna help me in the slightest...

I just want to die right now...

It's not even close to help you
Spread for the whole is school is a really awful thing to be done
I really feel sorry for you
Cause it's difficult without no one knowing
.. Now your whole school knows....
but I guess you shouldn't lose faith one day it will get better
And I hope you find your own way out :o

[Liquorice]

In case people didn't know (and I think only a few people do), I am currently pregnant.


Wow congratulations. we've been trying for 5yrs. I hope everything goes well for you.

[Temperance]

One of my best friends has found out I'm depressed. About fucking time! Just goes to show how much attention they pay to me. What's worse is that they have told someone else and now it's spreading around my entire fucking school! This isn't gonna help me in the slightest...

I just want to die right now...

I always wondered why it took so long for others to notice my depression. I just figured it was because I had gotten way too good at hiding it.
I wish people would get over the stigma of depression! I know teenagers can be cruel in general, but when someone is depressed that cruelty is only going to make things worse. :mad:

[Kimberlys]

One of my best friends has found out I'm depressed. About fucking time! Just goes to show how much attention they pay to me. What's worse is that they have told someone else and now it's spreading around my entire fucking school! This isn't gonna help me in the slightest...

I just want to die right now...

even though, they discorvered it, i had to speak it to them at least 50 times! and the boy i liked, asked me today if i was depressed, after i told him, he just; She is fucking depressed!!
i know how you feel though

[Temperance]

Wow congratulations. we've been trying for 5yrs. I hope everything goes well for you.

Thank you! I have a daughter that is 7. We've been actively trying for the last year or so. I first found out I was pregnant back in May, but I miscarried in June. That's when I realized I couldn't keep my depression to myself. But, so far so good! I've had an ultrasound already, the heartbeat is great, and I'll be at 4 months next week.

I wish you the best of luck in your trying! Have you talked to your doctor about why it may not be happening?

[Kimberlys]

In case people didn't know (and I think only a few people do), I am currently pregnant.


thats so freaking cool! congrats! :D

[tpbarbosa]

Thank you! I have a daughter that is 7. We've been actively trying for the last year or so. I first found out I was pregnant back in May, but I miscarried in June. That's when I realized I couldn't keep my depression to myself. But, so far so good! I've had an ultrasound already, the heartbeat is great, and I'll be at 4 months next week.

I wish you the best of luck in your trying! Have you talked to your doctor about why it may not be happening?

awww...
I wish you all the best :p

[Liquorice]

Thank you! I have a daughter that is 7. We've been actively trying for the last year or so. I first found out I was pregnant back in May, but I miscarried in June. That's when I realized I couldn't keep my depression to myself. But, so far so good! I've had an ultrasound already, the heartbeat is great, and I'll be at 4 months next week.

I wish you the best of luck in your trying! Have you talked to your doctor about why it may not be happening?

Yep. 5yrs ago I miscarried my 1st then 6months later I miscarried my 2nd. Since that time we've had no luck getting pregnant. I have been doing fertility treatment for 2yrs. They kept putting me at the bottom of the bloody list cos I'd been pregnant twice and I'm younger than most woman there - they thought it would happen naturally. Yeah right!!
I have been taking pills at certain times of my cycle and having what they call a trigger injection every month. They did not work. Then I had an internal scan which found tissue scarring, so they operated. Now I'm on the waiting list for IVF. But its only a 33%chance of success. 1 in 3 couples gets a baby out of that.
I have not had my period for last month, but I not getting my hopes up cos the test came back negative, so I'll wait for next month to see what happens. But I 'm so glad for you. I wouldn't wish this shit on any woman.

[LP_Fan101]

It's not even close to help you
Spread for the whole is school is a really awful thing to be done
I really feel sorry for you
Cause it's difficult without no one knowing
.. Now your whole school knows....
but I guess you shouldn't lose faith one day it will get better
And I hope you find your own way out :o

I've been trying to hide my depression like for ages! And now people know about it. I don't know what to do.

[Rocksquirrel]

Thank you! I have a daughter that is 7. We've been actively trying for the last year or so. I first found out I was pregnant back in May, but I miscarried in June. That's when I realized I couldn't keep my depression to myself. But, so far so good! I've had an ultrasound already, the heartbeat is great, and I'll be at 4 months next week.

I wish you the best of luck in your trying! Have you talked to your doctor about why it may not be happening?

Congratulations :)

[tpbarbosa]

I've been trying to hide my depression like for ages! And now people know about it. I don't know what to do.

that's a really horrible thing
Actually if it happened with me I wouldn't know what to do
But just ignore them ^^

[Rocksquirrel]

I've been trying to hide my depression like for ages! And now people know about it. I don't know what to do.

I would try to ignore the people as good as you can. Don't listen to them. The best is you don't have it to hide anymore :)

[Rocksquirrel]

Rocksquirrel, I will PM you with my thoughts about what's going on. I hope things have improved though. :)

Thank you :) your opinion is kinda important for me.

[Unicorn]

lol he'd hate you. luckily, i have a dog that badly needs in shape. she's a fatty.

Then you have extra motivation, you're doing all this for your dog :p As to my cat, it's 10.10pm here and he just started running, jumping falling and generally pissing me off. No, he doesn't need to exercise more than this.

[shattered_pieces]

i just wanna say something.. for those of you who are depressed and don't know why.. don't worry depression can be (like wookie said) from brain chemicals or something like that it doesn't have to be that you were traumatized or anything..and i think that could be fixed with pills.

[Temperance]

Yep. 5yrs ago I miscarried my 1st then 6months later I miscarried my 2nd. Since that time we've had no luck getting pregnant. I have been doing fertility treatment for 2yrs. They kept putting me at the bottom of the bloody list cos I'd been pregnant twice and I'm younger than most woman there - they thought it would happen naturally. Yeah right!!
I have been taking pills at certain times of my cycle and having what they call a trigger injection every month. They did not work. Then I had an internal scan which found tissue scarring, so they operated. Now I'm on the waiting list for IVF. But its only a 33%chance of success. 1 in 3 couples gets a baby out of that.
I have not had my period for last month, but I not getting my hopes up cos the test came back negative, so I'll wait for next month to see what happens. But I 'm so glad for you. I wouldn't wish this shit on any woman.

Wow, I am so sorry you have to go through all of that. I know what it feels like to try not to get excited about it. I'm still trying not to get too excited, but it's getting harder. I'm crossing my fingers for you that things will work out this time!

Congratulations
awww...
I wish you all the best
thats so freaking cool! congrats!

Thank you very much, all of you! I will try and keep everyone posted on what's happening. :)

[Kimberlys]

^ :)

but damn. Emily is trying to help me so freaking much! and its working, but then, Stine comes, and take all the things that she has helped me with, and just break my feelings.
i am really depressed of my soscial phobia right now, and she knows it. bleh

[Temperance]

Social phobia sucks. I remember literally not being able to leave the house for almost a week. I wouldn't even answer my phone. Even with medication I'm still a little sketchy about talking to people I don't really know, but it has gotten much better.

[Rocksquirrel]

I guess, I have a slight social phobia. I need time to talk to people, especially in these situations where I think this people could think I'm weird :rolleyes:

[Kimberlys]

god, i wont even talk to them :P

[Nordic_Storm]

Doing things for others is also a good way to feel good :)

[Nordic_Storm]

I guess, I have a slight social phobia. I need time to talk to people, especially in these situations where I think this people could think I'm weird :rolleyes:

nope, not social phobia, just common sense :)

[Kimberlys]

yeah, and the best is that i know that she know what i'm thinking because she had the same problem in 7th grade, and now she is helping me, for something that she got help for :)

[Nordic_Storm]

yeah, and the best is that i know that she know what i'm thinking because she had the same problem in 7th grade, and now she is helping me, for something that she got help for :)

Well be happy that you have friends that care for you, I never had anybody and I survived :)

[Liquorice]

I wish I could bring you all down here for a holiday and get rid of all your bad shit, but unfortunatly I not have the means to do that :( . Instead I send you all out a great BIG hug and lots of love. I know this is not much and I wish I could do more for you all. xoxo.

[Kimberlys]

people like you, just make more happiness in my weekday :)

[shattered_pieces]

I wish I could bring you all down here for a holiday and get rid of all your bad shit, but unfortunatly I not have the means to do that :( . Instead I send you all out a great BIG hug and lots of love. I know this is not much and I wish I could do more for you all. xoxo.

it's enough XD
*hugs back*

[My_Crimson_December]

I wish I could bring you all down here for a holiday and get rid of all your bad shit, but unfortunatly I not have the means to do that :( . Instead I send you all out a great BIG hug and lots of love. I know this is not much and I wish I could do more for you all. xoxo.

awww that's so sweet :) n it's more than enough.
*hugs recieved( ;)

[MusicalMorphine]

I had depression for a good three years or so but never went on pills because I didn't want my parents to know. And I didn't like the idea of relying on pills for happiness because I felt like then the happiness wasn't real.

My mum is on anti-depressants though and she says they make her really tired and there is a ton of side effects. But I do think they can make a significant difference for a lot of people.

[Liquorice]

Everyone has different reactions to pills. It took 3 attempts before they found the right medication for my brother and now you'd never know he got an illness and he's doing really well.

[My_Crimson_December]

Everyone has different reactions to pills. It took 3 attempts before they found the right medication for my brother and now you'd never know he got an illness and he's doing really well.

yeah i don't remember them doing that to me.or making me sleepy or anything ...
btw really happy for your brother :)

[My_Crimson_December]

I had depression for a good three years or so but never went on pills because I didn't want my parents to know. And I didn't like the idea of relying on pills for happiness because I felt like then the happiness wasn't real.

My mum is on anti-depressants though and she says they make her really tired and there is a ton of side effects. But I do think they can make a significant difference for a lot of people.

how old are you?because you may not have to tell ur parents.or maybe consider therapy?..i dunno but sometimes it does help.

[LP_Fan101]

Everyone seems to be saying that pills and therapy help. Yeah they might but I can't do anything like that without my mum finding out :(

[Liquorice]

Everyone seems to be saying that pills and therapy help. Yeah they might but I can't do anything like that without my mum finding out :(

How old are you? would she not be supportive? Surely she would want what's best for you?

[LP_Fan101]

How old are you? would she not be supportive? Surely she would want what's best for you?

I'm 15. She said if I got like that she would send me to a mental hospital. That's why :(

[Anstice]

I wish I could bring you all down here for a holiday and get rid of all your bad shit, but unfortunatly I not have the means to do that :( . Instead I send you all out a great BIG hug and lots of love. I know this is not much and I wish I could do more for you all. xoxo.

What counts is not that fact that you can't do anything for us, but the fact that you care enough to wish that you could. :) THAT'S what makes you an amazing friend *huggles*

[Liquorice]

I'm 15. She said if I got like that she would send me to a mental hospital. That's why :(

Oh honey, I don't understand why she think like that. Can you do anything through your school? What about your doctor, surely he not allowed to tell your mum, patient confidentiality and all that?

[Liquorice]

What counts is not that fact that you can't do anything for us, but the fact that you care enough to wish that you could. :) THAT'S what makes you an amazing friend *huggles*

Awww thanks sweetie, *blushes*, you just made me feel all tingly.

[Gothicbarbie]

I don't have much experience on the matter so I can't really say.

The first thing I thought when I read the thread however was about 'blood brothers', if you've seen the play. The guy in that goes on Valium and it basically fucks his life up worst than it was before.

But then again; that is just a story.

[Squishy_Ho]

i believe there are natural anti-anxiety, anti-depressant, etc. elements in the nature. the companies which make Prozac and everything just take these natural medecines, mixes bunch of other chemical stuff in it that gives you tons of secondary effects and then sells it to you.

i'm not sure if natural medicinal plants can help you cure the disease, but i at least know that you can have the same effect as pills but just by drinking it in a tea. and you won't have all those secondary effects.

[Squishy_Ho]

well, my mother is a psychiatrist and she always say that medications are a way to keep the patient stable for a while. To gain some time while she tries to figure out what's wrong with the person's source of the depression and stuff like that. Like for example, depression may have different sources...one being the "enviroment" around the patient, that depression being consequence of a dissfunctional family, low self esteem and stuff like that... but also, many times depression is often related to the lack of certain hormones or vitamins or stuff like that.

The fact of depression being consequence of some hormonal disorder is what makes psychologists uneffective. There's always this neverending conflict between psychiatrists and psychologists... psychologists say psychiatrists are just the same but they can prescribe medicines, but i dont see it like that. For what i know, psychologists base their approach to the patient from a freudian point of view (not always, but most of the time) and freud is more than just obsolete nowadays. It's a nice theory, but in practice is not that effective. Psychiatrist in the other had try finding the reason why the patient is depressed, considering how does the individual is affected by the social and economical (specially here in south america, pretty much all suicides are because of economical reasons) medium.

Depression won't be healed by medications, they'll help you. But that's just it. I've been really depressed in the past for long periods of time, because of certain abrupt changes in my life in which i was kind of overwhelmed by the choices i had to make back then. But never considered medication as an option.

i don't really agree with psychologists thinking from theories rather than asking question and finding what's wrong about you. i went to see a psychologist at the beginning of september and i've seen her about 8 to 10 times and each time, she was making me think. she was asking questions to know what was wrong, to help me realise how i truely felt about certain situations and stuff. that's none of freud's theory.

[Squishy_Ho]

lost. sad. confused.
that's pretty much how i lived my teenage years hon. it's a very weird phase where everything's changing, from your mind to your body and soul. and it doesn't just stick to that.

but i don't know if there's something else making you that way too but think of how you went from your pre-teen years to now. think of how much you've changed mentally/physically and how much it has affected you and the people surrounding you. perhaps it will help you understand some stuff.

[Squishy_Ho]

something just popped in my mind right now

it seems that nowadays, every kid (and yes, i do mean kid) has a depression of some sort when they get into their teenage years. when i look back at my parents, i don't think that's how they felt around that age but now? my dad had to quit his job cause he was on a burn-out, and my mom is going literally nuts because of her job.

could this just be a society phenomenon? is it because everything goes around too fast, you have to be performant in your job and in your studies, we don't take much time for ourselves, we don't go out in the sun enough and don't seem to hang around that much people cause we're stuck in our homes on the internet or on the tv, we don't even seem to take enough time to just live anymore.

how many of you just takes like 10-15 minutes a day to just meditate and completely empty your mind of all things? hell, is that even truely possible anymore? we always seem to have so much stuff to think, to do, to accomplish. just thinking about it i feel breathless.

i think the general depression thing everyone seems to be going through is just cause we're all so overwhelmed with everything surrounding us. we, as a society, need to take a break from everything.

[Squishy_Ho]

It's okay to go now too. It's never too late for that. It's all a long progress. Don't be afraid of it :)

I promise you everything WILL be good again. And then you will smile again. :)

careful with how you talk. you're very open-hearted but keep some distance. you are not a therapist. i've tried playing that role with some of my friends and at some point i was the one feeling bad in the end.

it's good to help others but think about yourself first. you won't be able to help them anymore if you get into that state too.

[Squishy_Ho]

Sorry I've been MIA everyone! We had a huge snowstorm yesterday, and of course all hell broke loose at work. Things should get back to normal today. *crosses fingers*

Exercising is one of the first things I did to help with my depression. It didn't work for me because if you couple exercise with an ED, it just makes the ED worse. But I have read that it can help for a lot of people. Even just being outside can help. Something to do with the sun exposure, and vitamin D I think (don't quote me though, I'm not really sure).

There still seems to be a stigma attached to taking prescribed medications. I have never had issues with meds. If I need something to help me, and it works, then fine. Once you get to a point where you can't live in your own skin, you're pretty much willing to try anything. Do I want to take the meds for the rest of my life? Not really, but I realize that my illness is not temporary, and is not some seasonal thing. It's wired in my brain, and no amount of "think positive" is going to change it.
In case people didn't know (and I think only a few people do), I am currently pregnant. My doctor still wants me to take my medication because the benefits far oytweigh the risks. She did switch me to a different medication that is safer for pregnancy. There was a definite down time when I had to adjust, but I feel better now. She thinks I am at a huge risk for post-partum depression, and wants me to continue taking the meds for at least a year afterwards. Also, being pregnant is the only reason I am attempting recovery from my ED. It's not just me anymore, you know?
Bah...long rambling post. Rocksquirrel, I will PM you with my thoughts about what's going on. I hope things have improved though. :)

will you keep it? i hope you will get a beautiful and healthy baby =) as long as he/she gets all the love and affection he/she needs, she'll be fine i guess.

[My_Crimson_December]

I dunno for how long i can take this.i'm fuckin terrified and i dnt even know what i'm scared of.all the time,i hve this stinging in my chest.it won't go away,it won't leave me in peace.i just want to crawl in my bed and sleep.and not dream,and not feel.and just stay there.forever.

[Unicorn]

I felt like this before, only I knew what was the reason, I just couldn't change the things that were going on back then. I thought it would never stop. I guess if it had lasted longer it would have turned into a real depression. Maybe you should talk to someone about how you feel.

[shattered_pieces]

something just popped in my mind right now

it seems that nowadays, every kid (and yes, i do mean kid) has a depression of some sort when they get into their teenage years. when i look back at my parents, i don't think that's how they felt around that age but now? my dad had to quit his job cause he was on a burn-out, and my mom is going literally nuts because of her job.

could this just be a society phenomenon? is it because everything goes around too fast, you have to be performant in your job and in your studies, we don't take much time for ourselves, we don't go out in the sun enough and don't seem to hang around that much people cause we're stuck in our homes on the internet or on the tv, we don't even seem to take enough time to just live anymore.

how many of you just takes like 10-15 minutes a day to just meditate and completely empty your mind of all things? hell, is that even truely possible anymore? we always seem to have so much stuff to think, to do, to accomplish. just thinking about it i feel breathless.

i think the general depression thing everyone seems to be going through is just cause we're all so overwhelmed with everything surrounding us. we, as a society, need to take a break from everything.

very possible. the new generation is so messed up ( yeah i do realize i'm talking about myself) but a big part of the reason isn't us.. it's lotsa things combined.

[shattered_pieces]

I felt like this before, only I knew what was the reason, I just couldn't change the things that were going on back then. I thought it would never stop. I guess if it had lasted longer it would have turned into a real depression. Maybe you should talk to someone about how you feel.

Lil i love your avatar :D

[Unicorn]

Why thank you :D Yours is great too.

[shattered_pieces]

Why thank you :D Yours is great too.

i know i know :rolleyes:

[Unicorn]

how modest :p

[shattered_pieces]

:o i AM modest!
let's talk in the Man, what happened thread :D

[Kimberlys]

i'm scared. Emily cant help me anymore because her grandfather died yesterday, so we are at the same level :(
and even though i didnt know him, it was like i lost a place in my heart because my memories came back from my grandfather who died 5 years ago :(

[Rocksquirrel]

i'm scared. Emily cant help me anymore because her grandfather died yesterday, so we are at the same level :(
and even though i didnt know him, it was like i lost a place in my heart because my memories came back from my grandfather who died 5 years ago :(

now she's starting to understand you much better and you aren't alone anymore. this situation could help you.

[Nordic_Storm]

Being passive can also be very bad so start doing something instead of thinking and doing nothing. Maybe find some charity work to participate in or go to a new place in the city. Really the possibility's are endless, it's far better to be active the passive.

[Squishy_Ho]

very possible. the new generation is so messed up ( yeah i do realize i'm talking about myself) but a big part of the reason isn't us.. it's lotsa things combined.

totally agree with that. but we need to change that in order to live happily

[shattered_pieces]

totally agree with that. but we need to change that in order to live happily

i am willing to change.. but thing is not many people are..if not at all ..

[LP_Fan101]

i am willing to change.. but thing is not many people are..if not at all ..

I hate to admit it. But I'm probably one of those people.

[Squishy_Ho]

i am willing to change.. but thing is not many people are..if not at all ..

especially those that are making lotsa money i believe...

[shattered_pieces]

but i don't wanna change everything in me.. just IMPROVE my thinking. coz if i change everything then i won't be the same person anymore ..and that makes me depressed.

[Liquorice]

Thats true. A few years ago when I was down I kept thinking about the good things in my life. It was my way of thinking that made me a happier person. You don't have to change the person that you are maybe just your way of thinking sometimes. And compromise can be a good thing too. But in saying that everyone handles things differently.

[shattered_pieces]

ok i'm better today =D i think it's because of all the sun..i'm not that depressed :)
i went out wit ma frenz and we were gon' do karaoke but they were closed =(((

[Squishy_Ho]

but i don't wanna change everything in me.. just IMPROVE my thinking. coz if i change everything then i won't be the same person anymore ..and that makes me depressed.

improvement is change love ;) and with every step you take, you become a better yourself if i can say.

[shattered_pieces]

^ yep :)
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[Squishy_Ho]

it's scary at first but that's life right?

[LP_Fan101]

People keep telling me to go to a doctor.
I just don't want to.
I know my life isn't getting any better right now.
Oh well...
What a shame, eh?

[shattered_pieces]

it's scary at first but that's life right?

aha..life's full of fear but you know some things you just gotta do them scraed or not.. "fear is only in our minds,but it's taking over all the time" -evanescence, sweet sacrifice.

[Nordic_Storm]

People keep telling me to go to a doctor.
I just don't want to.
I know my life isn't getting any better right now.
Oh well...
What a shame, eh?

Think of it this way, is it better you continue feeling bad with out doing anything to become better?. If you choose that you cant really complain about that you feel shitty.

How about instead take action and be in control of your life, I know it was really hard for me to go and seek help from a doctor but after the first session you will just regret that you didn't go there earlier :)

[Nordic_Storm]

I nowadays always try to look at both the positive and negative aspects of my life, if there is something in my life that is more negative I change it, it can be anything from bad friends, eating the wrong food and so on.

[shattered_pieces]

i'm depressed ='(
i hate everyone.

[LP_Fan101]

i'm depressed ='(
i hate everyone.

I know how you feel. The same for me right now. It doesn't help that I've had exams and the pressure of being expected to do well in them is simply too much...

[shattered_pieces]

heey so how r ya?? how's ur depression going? anything new? improvements??

[Kimberlys]

i never got the feeling if i could ever say it right, so
one of my friends did find this to me, and
its like every word is taken out of my mind.

http://forums.linkinpark.com/showthread.php?t=2411&highlight=screwed