Crawl Back In kind of blows. [Archive] - OFFICIAL LINKIN PARK MESSAGE BOARD

87_Hetfield

08-17-2009, 08:15 AM

I don't like it, sounds like a Velvet Revolver leftover. I'm hoping that the rest of the album doesn't sound like this, because Bennington did say he changed a lot of shit between how the album was when it was "finished" in 2006 and it being done now.

I_IS_BANNED

08-17-2009, 10:25 AM

Tiernan_

08-17-2009, 10:25 AM

Haven't listened yet, but I gotta say a big THANK YOU for posting this in the right forum.

(which you usually do, but apparently a lot of members don't realize what Side and Solo Projects means)

I_IS_BANNED

08-17-2009, 10:25 AM

oh, and the song is okay. chester sounds good. of all the songs i heard at sonisphere, the middle one they played, a slower song, was the best. was impressed with that one. other two were average.

Tiernan_

08-17-2009, 10:39 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing them live, as they've been added to Epicenter. :)

StarDust75

08-17-2009, 10:53 AM

I think it's pretty good...I like all the songs I've heard so far.

dem0

08-18-2009, 12:18 PM

Listened to it once, and I'm not really liking it. If I remember right, Chester said somewhere that the tracks he write/wrote for Dead By Sunrise are darker than those he write for LP (too dark for LP to play or something). But this song, I don't know...only word I come up with is 'soft'. And like the one who started this thread said, it kinda sounds like Velvet Revolver. I hate to say all that, but I guess I was just waiting for a little bit more.

Calamity

08-20-2009, 04:08 PM

Heard what I expected, basic rock stuff. Liked the melodies, and expect better from the rest of the album.

minuteman

08-21-2009, 12:54 AM

Okay, this is why I don't like the LPMB much; just about each person with an opinion starts their own thread. You could have one thread on "Crawl Back In" and keep to that. :rolleyes: No offense but this place is so insanely messy ...

87_Hetfield

08-21-2009, 06:48 AM

WookieBastard

08-21-2009, 05:50 PM

I've listened to it the other day, it sucks badly. I saw this coming since none of the other songs played live or whatever were worth a second listen, except for "let down" maybe..

Clarkey4boro

08-24-2009, 01:15 PM

I'm one of the rare few who don't actually mind it. At sonisphere there was a lot of "Link-In-Park" chants whilst DBS were playing which I thought was stupid. All bands start out with people not knowing them and it only makes it harder for chester when he is the lead singer of such a huge band, there'll always be people going it's the LP guy and expecting music similiar to LP, the same goes with Mike. In some way's it's harder for them.

linkinparkunit

08-26-2009, 10:00 AM

i think it sounds cool but the beginning reminds me ofm SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT (i mean the instrumental part)

SOMETIMES SOLUTIONS AREN'T SO SIMPLE....

MaryBing

08-26-2009, 12:01 PM

Not a big fan of Crawl Back In either... I LOVE the lyrics, but I think the music doesn't go with it. The song doesn't "catch" me like The Morning After, Let Down and Fire (and even My Suffering). Not that I don't like it, it just I don't quite understand why they've chosen this very song for the 1st single...

Estel

09-08-2009, 03:53 PM

87_Hetfield

09-08-2009, 07:33 PM

Fire is much better.

WookieBastard

09-09-2009, 02:18 AM

But still, in my opinion, not good enough. Feels like a never ending intro. I like the part where he stops shouting and sings for a brief moment.

Zenix

09-09-2009, 04:08 AM

Guess I'm insane or something because I f**king love the stuff Chester's doing with DBS =)
Its great that he's doing something of his own.. and its equali great that he's not abandon LP.
Thanx to this great idea from Chester I now have 2 great groups (totaly different) with the same amazing singer to listen to =)

Zenix

09-09-2009, 04:17 AM

Chester's voice rules (as usual) and the guitar riffs and solo are really cool! But seriously, can't Chester find another subject for his songs' lyrics other than "I don't wanna be like you, I wanna be myself" and similar teeny 'angst' crap?
It's okay to express your feelings as an artist but repeating the same friggin' thing for 7 years reveals a serious lack of creativity or/and inspiration...

Last LP record should prove that he can do other lyrics aswell.. right?
But then people complain about the music instead and how it was sooo wrong to write 'that kinda' lyric etc... if you people never are happy with what they do.. why keep listen?
I realy wonder.

Estel

09-09-2009, 01:34 PM

Last LP record should prove that he can do other lyrics aswell.. right?
But then people complain about the music instead and how it was sooo wrong to write 'that kinda' lyric etc... if you people never are happy with what they do.. why keep listen?
I realy wonder.

Don't forget that Mike co-wrote the lyrics of the last album... That's why, I guess, the lyrics dealt with relatively deeper subjects. But still, there was plenty of teeny 'angst' crap repeating like a broken record.
Example from 'leave out all the rest': "I can't be who you are". What is this if not déjà vu? In Numb too: "All I want to do, is be more like me and be less like you" and now in Crawl back in "I don't wanna be like them".
It's not 'complaining', it's simply objective criticism. It's another way of supporting the artist. Fans are not here to worship the band like mindless sheeps...

Zenix

09-09-2009, 11:24 PM

Ok Estel.. I get your point about the not worship =)
I guess I'm just one of these that like that 'teenage anguish crap' ;)
But we can't all like the same stuff And that's ok =)
Guess I like it (even though being 36 soon) because I still going through some undealt crap from the past.. don't know. Maybe its the same for him.
Sometimes some things stay with us regardless of how old we get. Guess the scars are to deep or something like that :-/
But whatever reason he has.. its good music anyways =)

Estel

09-10-2009, 12:20 AM

But we can't all like the same stuff And that's ok =)

I can't disagree there. ;)

Guess I like it (even though being 36 soon) because I still going through some undealt crap from the past.. don't know. Maybe its the same for him.
Sometimes some things stay with us regardless of how old we get. Guess the scars are to deep or something like that :-/

And that's okay too. I just think that as an artist, he could find more creative and rich (less shallow) ways of dealing with those issues... that's it :D

Zenix

09-10-2009, 12:28 PM

I see your point. But I guess the coin always have two sides. If changing lyric to much.. the younger fans might leave. I think its a balance act. No matter what he chose its always someone that will think he should have done different.
Guess one can never saticfie every living soul.
But thank god that we are so many with so different thinking of this.. maybe that inspire him to try new things in the future =)

cloudscream

09-11-2009, 10:09 PM

This really sounds like an upgraded Grey Daze song.

Zenix

09-12-2009, 05:52 PM

A little bit yes. But its Chaz so.. its not that shocking ;) But I still love it.. so I'm happy 'hehe' :-P

I_IS_BANNED

09-13-2009, 04:19 PM

fire is awesome.

LilGingerKid

09-18-2009, 11:23 PM

yeah... i thought crawl back in is good but my suffering is like.. twice as good i think

:)

ShadowerLiltani

10-01-2009, 02:38 PM

Notice how a large majority of us do not like this song. I have never supported the close-minded opinions of MTM, but, I think we're all on the same page here when we say "Crawl Back In has NOTHING special about it". At least MTM had substance...

weirdkid

10-01-2009, 05:56 PM

I kinda like the overall sound. But it did not live up to the buzz. If it weren't for his vocals I'd think it was OK. The lyrics was average and so was the music, nothing special. To me, not very memorable except for the part "I wanna crawl back innnnn" which is kinda still stuck in my head right now. So this is the reason why I'm refraining myself anymore Dead by Sunrise songs until the official album comes out, because I believe that not the whole album will sound like this song!

ReeRee

10-02-2009, 01:54 PM

because I believe that not the whole album will sound like this song!

No, the whole album doesn't sound like Crawl back in. There are some very decent songs on it e.g. Fire, Give me your name, Let Down, In the darkness.

I_IS_BANNED

10-02-2009, 08:46 PM

reeree definitely talks alot of sense.

87_Hetfield

10-02-2009, 08:52 PM

I don't see why nobody will listen before buying. Had I not heard a leak beforehand I sure as shit wouldn't consider buying the album.

weirdkid

10-03-2009, 05:50 AM

No, the whole album doesn't sound like Crawl back in. There are some very decent songs on it e.g. Fire, Give me your name, Let Down, In the darkness.

YEAY! We have faith in you Chester! :D

*gets out from fangirl mode*

So far, I just heard 2 songs, I'm waiting for the whole album to be released so I can listen to it in sequential order and get the whole feel of the album, just like what Mike Shinoda said when MTM got leaked :D

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 08:44 AM

YEAY! We have faith in you Chester! :D

*gets out from fangirl mode*

So far, I just heard 2 songs, I'm waiting for the whole album to be released so I can listen to it in sequential order and get the whole feel of the album, just like what Mike Shinoda said when MTM got leaked :D

The album is sequential now. It's numbered 1,2,3,4, etc.

Also you're a girl?

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 10:06 AM

basically, if you like the little things give you away, shadow of the day and leave out all the rest you'll love this.

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 10:22 AM

EpilepticChickenScratch

10-03-2009, 12:21 PM

I dunno.

I think Dead By Sunrise is OKAY, but I don't really like their music that much. I think that's because the appealing part of Linkin Park to me is Mike Shinoda. I really liked Fort Minor's music. I suppose that's probably the reason I didn't take to DBS at all.

But it's all OKAY.

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 02:13 PM

but they sound very similar to linkin park.....

it's like saying you love mccdonalds but hate burger king.

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 02:16 PM

Is DBS still considered Chesters solo band? Like if he decided he wanted to break some of the songs out at a Linkin Park show without the Orgy guys he could do so without it being a "Tom DeLonge leaves Blink then plays Blink songs at A&A concerts" type douche move?

I can see Too Late being played a lot at Linkin Parl concerts in the future.

i read it a magazine that it started off as a solo project, but moved into a band when the other guys got involved.

i doubt LP would ever play DBS songs. they only ever do short FM snippets to add to mike's rapping, rather than the set list on a whole.

lodevieks

10-03-2009, 04:43 PM

joe, it sounds nothing like velvet revolver.

i've heard so many comparisons it's untrue. according to kerrang, they are a mixture of blur and u2. wtf? some people have said the sound like green day, again, no chance.

they sound like a poppier version of nine inch nails.

people always have to judge music, always wanna say how it sounds... That's really NOT cool and just weird...

The only thing you can say honest and true about music is: I like it or I don't like it.

Not it's bad, not it's good, ...
You can call a band good when he sold a lot of albums...

I never like to listen a song of Metallica, but that band is really good. Who thinks I am right?

(and yeah, i think to much about those things, kind of filosofy)

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 04:58 PM

but they sound very similar to linkin park.....

it's like saying you love mccdonalds but hate burger king.

But Burger King >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCDonalds.

I can see a lot of huge Linkin Park fans not getting into DBS to be honest.

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 05:01 PM

people always have to judge music, always wanna say how it sounds... That's really NOT cool and just weird...

The only thing you can say honest and true about music is: I like it or I don't like it.

Not it's bad, not it's good, ...
You can call a band good when he sold a lot of albums...

I never like to listen a song of Metallica, but that band is really good. Who thinks I am right?

I'm not actually sure what the hell you're trying to say. I imagine you're trying to call the album "hit or miss" until you added that "album sales = quality" bit.

(and yeah, i think to much about those things, kind of filosofy)

Also before you're flamed. "Philosophy".

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 05:17 PM

people always have to judge music, always wanna say how it sounds... That's really NOT cool and just weird...

The only thing you can say honest and true about music is: I like it or I don't like it.

Not it's bad, not it's good, ...
You can call a band good when he sold a lot of albums...

I never like to listen a song of Metallica, but that band is really good. Who thinks I am right?

(and yeah, i think to much about those things, kind of filosofy)

what the fuck are you going on about.

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 05:21 PM

But Burger King >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCDonalds.

I can see a lot of huge Linkin Park fans not getting into DBS to be honest.

the idiotic fans who also love disturbed and korn who can't get passed the fact that they aint nu metal anymore will probably not like it. but it's for stupid reason.

ITS TOOOO MAINSTREEEEAAAAM. jesus. the "heavy" music they like is still mainstream, they have no idea.

weirdkid

10-03-2009, 06:25 PM

The album is sequential now. It's numbered 1,2,3,4, etc.

Also you're a girl?

But it hasn't been fully released yet right? Isn't it supposed to be on the 13th of October?

And yes, although I don't think this is releveant, I'm a girl.

but they sound very similar to linkin park.....

it's like saying you love mccdonalds but hate burger king.

No dude! I know people who love Mcdonalds but hat Burger King, and vice versa. But that's not the point. Anyways, DBS, FM and LP have different styles eventhough they share some simmilarities. I love all LP songs (except In Between), but some FM songs I just can't stand.

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 06:42 PM

yes dude. okay. a better example. it's like saying you love the water from the tap in your kitchen and hate the water from the tap in your bathroom.

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 07:11 PM

the idiotic fans who also love disturbed and korn who can't get passed the fact that they aint nu metal anymore will probably not like it. but it's for stupid reason.

ITS TOOOO MAINSTREEEEAAAAM. jesus. the "heavy" music they like is still mainstream, they have no idea.

That's not mainstream, it has yelling in it! :(

But it hasn't been fully released yet right? Isn't it supposed to be on the 13th of October?

Yes, it is. This is (supposedly) the Japanese retail. Which has more content. Morning After won't be on the other releases (that I know of, definitely not US) and if you're waiting for iTunes you may as well grab it now for free.

And yes, although I don't think this is releveant, I'm a girl.

News to me.

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 07:30 PM

even though morning after is shit, at least it follows on nicely from in the darkness.

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 07:31 PM

I think I like Condemned now. Mostly because it sounds like a theme song to a PPV WWE really isn't too interested in promoting.

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 07:40 PM

amazing. mail it to vince.

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 07:44 PM

WWE UNIVERSE!

Anyone still not like Let Down? I thought it would grow on me. It still sounds like a weird Gorillaz demo.

I_IS_BANNED

10-03-2009, 07:46 PM

i like it. think it's got more guitars in it because it would make a decent single.

think i'll review it in abit.

i'll do my own thread. not sharing a thread with the tool that is the hahninator.

87_Hetfield

10-03-2009, 07:53 PM

I think I'm going to do one soon too, since yours I believe will be positive and Hahns was (fairly) negative.

EpilepticChickenScratch

10-04-2009, 09:08 AM

but they sound very similar to linkin park.....

it's like saying you love mccdonalds but hate burger king.

Well, no, not really. Because DBS doesn't have Mike in it and you never heard him. And I think their lyrics are slightly....less thought out..??

87_Hetfield

10-04-2009, 09:14 AM

In The Darkness is very thought out.

It's about fucking.

I_IS_BANNED

10-04-2009, 09:19 AM

Well, no, not really. Because DBS doesn't have Mike in it and you never heard him. And I think their lyrics are slightly....less thought out..??

i meant minutes to midnight LP.

IcyQueen

10-04-2009, 09:21 AM

In The Darkness is very thought out.

It's about fucking.

'cause Chester's a perv.

87_Hetfield

10-04-2009, 09:23 AM

Because Chesters wife is (if i remember correctly) a former Playboy model.

I'd be singing about it too.

Aphelion

10-14-2009, 05:04 AM

Crawl Back In just screams "I wrote this song so I'd have a radio-friendly first single to satisfy the record label's demands."

I_IS_BANNED

10-16-2009, 10:17 AM

Crawl Back In just screams "I wrote this song so I'd have a radio-friendly first single to satisfy the record label's demands."

they could have picked any number of songs for a single. all radio friendly.